10.A. Sanctuary #2 Public Streetlighting Improvement Special Assessment District #430 – Public Hearing & Resolution #5

[11.F. Ordinance 2026-09: 2020 M78 – Singh Rezoning – RR, Rural Residential, to RDD, Multiple-Family Residential up to 5 dwelling units per acre (Introduce or Deny)]

UP TO FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. WE HAVE DIRECTOR SCHMITT BACK WITH US AGAIN.

YEAH. AND SO THIS IS A FOLLOW ON TO OUR CONVERSATION AT THE AUGUST 6TH MEETING.

THE BOARD AT THAT TIME GENERALLY WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST.

JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE AN ACRE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF M78 FROM RR RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL 5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND DENIAL AND THE BOARD HAS DISCUSSED THIS MATTER.

WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING IS TWO OPTIONS.

ONE, TO DENY THE ORDINANCE BASED ON THE CONVERSATION FROM THE LAST MEETING, AND ONE TO INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE FOR FUTURE ADOPTION.

STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD PRIOR TO A DECISION BEING MADE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.

BEFORE THE BOARD MAKES A MOTION TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

MR. SINGH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? YEAH. I GOT ABOUT THREE MINUTES WORTH OF STATEMENT TO MAKE.

PLEASE. THIS IS CONCERNING THE BACKGROUND AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PERMIT ISSUES THAT DATED BACK TO 2004.

SO I'M GOING TO READ OUT. SO IN JUNE 2004, THE MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP BUILDING DEPARTMENT ISSUED A BUILDING PERMIT NUMBER, PB 04-0425, TO CONNECT THE TWO EXISTING HOUSING STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY VIA A SINGLE BREEZEWAY STRUCTURE WHICH CONSISTS OF BOTH A FRONT FACADE CONNECTION AND A REAR CONNECTING AREA.

BY SEPTEMBER 2004, THE FRONT FACADE SECTION WAS FULLY COMPLETED AND SUCCESSFULLY PASSED THE INSPECTION, RESULTING IN AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT FOR THAT PORTION.

AT THAT TIME, I DISCUSSED MY TIMELINE FOR THE REAR CONNECTING PORTION WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, CHRIS CULLIGAN. I REQUESTED AN EXTENSION TO COMPLETE THE REAR PHASE AT A LATER DATE.

INSPECTOR CULLIGAN VERBALLY AGREED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST.

TRAGICALLY, SHORTLY AFTER AGREEMENT. MR. CULLIGAN PASSED AWAY IN A ROADSIDE AUTO ACCIDENT BEFORE A FORMAL WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION OF THAT EXTENSION WAS FINALIZED.

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SO IN IN YEAR 2008, I APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED A BUILDING PERMIT NUMBER PB 08-0230 TO CONSTRUCT A NEW POLE BARN LOCATED BEHIND THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

DURING THIS PROJECT, I WORKED DIRECTLY WITH BUILDING INSPECTOR JOHN HAVEN WHILE INSPECTOR AVON WAS SUPERVISING THE BARN PROJECT. I INFORMED HIM OF THE REMAINING REAR PORTION OF THE BREEZEWAY CONSTRUCTION ORIGINALLY AUTHORIZED UNDER THE PERMIT NUMBER PB 04-0425. UPON RECEIVING VERBAL CONFIRMATION FROM THE INSPECTOR AVON THAT I COULD PROCEED TO FINALIZE THE PROJECT AS PART OF THE ONGOING WORK SO I HIRED A LICENSED MICHIGAN BUILDING CONTRACTOR TO COMPLETE THE REAR BREEZEWAY CONNECTION IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.

THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, I HAVE CONSISTENTLY SOUGHT THE PROPER PERMITS, ENGAGED LICENSED CONTRACTORS, AND WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING INSPECTORS TO ENSURE ALL WORK WAS AUTHORIZED.

THE CONNECTION OF THE TWO STRUCTURES WAS EXPLICITLY AUTHORIZED UNDER THE PERMIT NUMBER PB 04-0425.

THE DELAY IN COMPLETING THE REAR PORTION WAS DISCUSSED WITH INSPECTOR CULLIGAN IN 2004, AND REAFFIRMED WITH INSPECTOR AVON DURING THE 2008 CONSTRUCTION UNDER PERMIT NUMBER PB 08-0230. THE.

ALL WORK WAS EXECUTED BY A LICENSED CONTRACTOR DOING BUSINESS IN MICHIGAN.

GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES RECENTLY, INDICATION THAT A REAR PORTION CONSTITUTES ILLEGAL CONSTRUCTION, DO NOT REFLECT THE EXTENSIVE PERMIT HISTORY OR MY CONSISTENT EFFORT TO COORDINATE WITH TOWNSHIP OFFICIALS.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THIS DOCUMENTED HISTORY, RECOGNIZE THE GOOD FAITH ACTION TAKEN UNDER THE OVERSIGHT OF FORMER TOWNSHIP INSPECTORS, AND WORK WITH ME TO ADMINISTRATIVELY REGULATE THE REGULARIZE OR SIGN OFF ON THE REMAINING PAPERWORK, OR PERMIT NUMBER PB04-0425. SO TO RESOLVE THE NON-CONFORMING IN IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT PB 04-0425 ISSUED IN JUNE 2004.

I'M REQUESTING THE BOARD TO GRANT ME A RETROACTIVE OR SUPPLEMENTAL PERMIT TO COVER THE REAR CONNECTION OF BREEZEWAY BY MEANS OF AN OFFICIAL INSPECTION BY THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING INSPECTOR TO ENSURE THE AS BUILT STRUCTURE MEETS ALL THE MICHIGAN RESIDENTIAL CODE.

SO THAT'S MY STATEMENT, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BOARD MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? TRUSTEE TREZISE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SCHMITT.

GIVEN THE HISTORY THAT MR. SINGH HAS PROVIDED TONIGHT, DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR DISCUSSION OF THIS MATTER OR IMPRESSION OF THE NONCONFORMING USE ISSUE IN THAT? NO. I MEAN, I THINK FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, IT'S IT'S FAIRLY CLEAR THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE THE, IT DOES NOT MEET WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS FOR. SO FROM A HISTORY ASIDE, THE PURE ZONING OF QUESTION WOULD BE A DENIAL FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. I CAN ABSOLUTELY GO INTO THE HISTORY OF THE SITE, BUT SUFFICE TO SAY, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR THAT DIED WAS NOT EVEN EMPLOYED WITH US AT THE TIME THAT HE DIED. HE HAD LEFT AT LEAST A YEAR EARLIER AND WAS WITH THE CITY OF MASON AT THE TIME.

PERMIT WAS CLOSED OUT. THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

AND THEN THE PERMIT SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT NO CHANGES ARE TO BE MADE WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION, WHICH IS A HIGHLY UNUSUAL CONDITION FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.

SO I THINK I WOULD JUST SIMPLY RELY ON THE FACT THAT THE ZONING WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

AND THAT'S WHERE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION COMES FROM ON THIS. THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE LENTZ. YEAH. APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE. DIRECTOR SCHMITT.

REHASHING A COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

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THIS AS THE PROPERTY EXISTS NOW, IF IT WERE TO BECOME, EXCUSE ME, UP TO MERIDIAN RENTAL CODE READINESS, IT COULD OPERATE AS A RENTAL HOME, AS A STANDALONE SINGLE UNIT.

CORRECT. IT COULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME FOR A FAMILY OR TWO UNRELATED PERSONS UNDER OUR CODE.

THANK YOU. YES. SO AS IT STANDS, A DENIAL OF.

EXCUSE ME, ANY REZONING WOULD NOT ELIMINATE THE OWNER'S ABILITY TO YOU KNOW, USE THEIR HOME AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN ANY CAPACITY, RENTING OR THEY THEMSELVES LIVING IN IT AS THE OWNER, IT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE IN THAT BUILDING.

IT'S CERTAINLY STILL ACCEPTABLE TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

WE ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW THE GARAGE TURNED INTO A HOUSE WITHOUT PERMITS.

BUT YEAH IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE PROPERTY CAN BE USED AND COULD BE RENTED TO TWO UNRELATED PERSONS.

THANK YOU. I, YOU KNOW, I ASK THAT BECAUSE I HAD A FEELING YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SO.

AND YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, AS SOMEONE WHO RENTS IN THE SAME AREA YOU KNOW, I, I CAN COMMISERATE WITH ANYONE WANTING TO EXPAND ON WHAT THEY VIEW AS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT AS IT STANDS, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS, I THINK A TOO MUCH OF A DRIVING FORCE HERE.

THIS IS NOT A STREET THAT I THINK WILL AT ANY POINT SEE LARGE LARGE RENTAL PROPERTIES OR EXCUSE ME, LARGE RENTAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WAS ESTABLISHED THE WAY IT IS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT IN MIND AND CONSIDERING THIS IS NOT A DISMISSAL OF THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ABILITY TO RENT THE HOME OUT AS A STANDALONE PROPERTY, I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO MOVE THE ADOPTION FOR A DENIAL OF THE ORDINANCE.

EXCUSE ME. I'M SO SORRY. IT'S OKAY. SO, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION? CLERK DEMAS. I'LL JUST ADD MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SCHMITT, FOR PROVIDING SOME CONTEXT AT THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING WHERE I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT THE THE PROPERTY OWNER.

I THINK JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T BECAUSE IT WAS ILLEGALLY MODIFIED.

I JUST, I THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO MOVE, TO ADOPT THE MOTION OR THE RESOLUTION TO DENY THIS ORDINANCE.

AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WILL IMPACT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ABILITY TO RENT.

AS WHAT TRUSTEE LENTZ AND WHAT YOU MENTIONED AT THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. SURE. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, IN CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST YOU KNOW, THIS IS ULTIMATELY A ZONING QUESTION, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE HISTORY OF THE, AND THE BACKSTORY OF THE PERMITTING THAT WAS GOING ON WITH THIS PROPERTY.

BUT ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HOPED FOR FUTURE LAND USE IS FROM A GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE, FROM THIS BOARD. OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENTS INDICATE A DIFFERENT FUTURE USE THAT WE HOPE TO SEE ON THIS AND ITS ADJOINING PROPERTIES. AND THE PARCEL TO THE EAST WHICH IS ALREADY, IS ACTUALLY ALREADY IN CONTRADICTION TO WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR THAT AREA. AS WE, AS WE SET FORTH OUR MASTER PLAN, OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP I'D ARGUE THAT WE W-OULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM BY, BY FURTHER REZONING IN CONTRADICTION TO THAT LAND USE MAP, WHICH IS WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE RESOLUTION TO DENY ORDINANCE 202608 TONIGHT. TRUSTEE LENTZ I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION DENYING ORDINANCE 2026-08 AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE. 2020 M78 PARCEL ID NUMBER 33-02-02-04-226-016. TO

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REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RR RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RDD MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UP TO FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE LENTZ. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? TREASURER BURGHARDT. TRUSTEE WILSON. I HAVE A COMMENT.

I'M LOOKING AT THE PRIOR MOTION FOR COPPER CREEK EAST.

IT'S TYPO. IT SHOULD BE ORDINANCE OH NINE THIS TIME. I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MAY I CALL THE MOTION MAKER? CONSIDER THAT A FRIENDLY, WOULD YOU PLEASE. YES, YES.

RATHER THAN REPEATING. YEAH. OKAY. SEEING NO OBJECTION TO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, WE'LL CONSIDER THAT ADOPTED.

WE'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. IT'S A FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

SO IT'S JUST SUGGESTED. AND I GUESS THE SECOND THE TREASURER BURGHARDT HAS THE SECONDER WOULD HAVE TO AGREE AS WELL.

I AGREE. OKAY. THERE WE ARE. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION DDENYING ORDINANCE 2026-08.

09. 9. THANK YOU EVERYONE. EVERYONE'S ON OUR TOES TODAY.

SO I WILL JUST CLARIFY THAT A YES VOTE ON THIS VOTE WOULD BE A VOTE TO DENY ORDINANCE.

2026-09 TO ALLOW FOR THE REZONING. SO WITH THAT CLERK DEMAS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? TRUSTEE WILSON. YES. CLERK DEMAS. YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT.

YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ. YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND. YES.

TRUSTEE TREZISE. YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON.

YES. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 11.G.

2026 CORNELL ROAD, WHITE OAK DRIVE, RIGHT WIND DRIVE, FOX CHASE, SANITARY SEWER PAYBACK.

[11.G. 2026 Cornell Road, White Oak Drive, Wrightwind Drive, Fox Chase Sanitary Sewer Payback District]

DISTRICT DEPUTY MANAGER OPSOMMER IS HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, BOARD MEMBERS.

SO STAFF BROUGHT THIS PAYBACK DISTRICT BEFORE YOU ON DECEMBER 16TH, 2025.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE BOARD CHOSE TO PROCEED AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO DESIGN, BUILD AND CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT.

WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION ON THE THREE INCH FORCE MAIN THAT SERVES THESE 15 PARCELS THAT WERE THAT ARE CURRENTLY SERVED BY PRIVATE SEPTIC SYSTEMS. JUST AS A BRIEF REFRESHER ON OUR CONVERSATION BACK IN DECEMBER.

TOWNSHIP STAFF WERE CONTACTED IN LATE NOVEMBER, RIGHT AROUND THANKSGIVING BY ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO INFORMED US THAT THEIR PARTICULAR SEPTIC SYSTEM WAS BEGINNING TO FAIL.

AND THE HOUSING STOCK IN GENERAL WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEGINNING TO REACH THAT LIFE CYCLE.

SO WE BROUGHT FORTH THIS CONCEPT. HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE DONE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS AND WE'VE DONE GRAVITY SEWERS.

WE DID LOOK AT THE COST OF GRAVITY SEWERS, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE AROUND EIGHT TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT YOU SEE THIS EVENING, 7 TO 8 TIMES. AND ADDITIONALLY, ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS REQUIRE YOU TO PAY PRIOR TO CONNECTING.

SO THERE'S TWO KIND OF HURDLES THAT ARE OFTEN DIFFICULT TO CLEAR.

AND WITH COSTS THE WAY THAT THEY ARE TODAY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO CLEAR.

SO WE'RE KIND OF PIVOTING AND LOOKING AT PAYBACK DISTRICTS AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS FOR WATER AND SANITARY EXTENSION.

THIS BEING, I BELIEVE, POSSIBLY THE FIRST ONE THAT WASN'T RELATED TO A DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE DID COMPLETE THE PROJECT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE COVER MEMORANDUM A LITTLE BIT UNDER BUDGET.

SO THE PAYBACK DISTRICT AMOUNTS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE TO PAY IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY ESTIMATED.

AND WE HAVE RECEIVED AT LEAST TWO, TWO PHONE CALLS FROM TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO DATE INTERESTED IN CONNECTING.

SO WE KIND OF RUSHED TO BRING THIS FORTH THIS EVENING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION? TRUSTEE TREZISE. YEAH, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THIS LANGUAGE ABOUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S 11,666 A YEAR, BUT IN PARAGRAPH THREE OF THE RESOLUTION NOW UNDER THE RESOLUTIONS IT TALKS ABOUT THE ABOUT.

THE BENEFIT CHARGE IS HEREBY ESTABLISHED AT 11,666, PLUS 5% INTEREST ANNUALLY IN PERPETUITY.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE REALLY ASKING THESE PEOPLE TO PAY THAT MONEY IN PERPETUITY, ARE YOU? UNTIL THE COST IS. UNTIL THE COST IS FULLY PAID.

WELL, THE MEANING WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THE COST WILL INCREASE EACH YEAR ON JANUARY 1ST BY 5%.

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I UNDERSTAND. BUT IT IT READS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING 11,666 IN PERPETUITY, PLUS 5% SURCHARGE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AS COMPOUNDED. YEAH. AND I WOULD THINK THEY MIGHT WANT THAT CLARIFIED.

YEAH. NOT THE INTENTION. THE INTENTION WOULD BE THAT THE, THE PAYBACK DISTRICT AMOUNT WOULD BE BASED ON THE YEAR OF CONNECTION.

AND IT WOULD FOLLOW THIS CHART HERE THAT IT WOULD NOT CEASE TO INCREASE IN 2041.

THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO INCREASE AT A RATE OF 5% EACH YEAR, SO THEY DON'T PAY IN PERPETUITY.

I'M SO SORRY, CHIEF HAMEL. I KNOW WHY YOU DID IT, BUT WOULD YOU MIND OPENING ONE OF THOSE DOORS? I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT THIS IS A CLOSED DOOR SESSION. SORRY.

GO AHEAD. DEPUTY MANAGER. MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A SLIGHT AMENDMENT BY THE BOARD.

AND WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT LANGUAGE. THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE WHATEVER THE PAYBACK PERIOD IS.

WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU DOING 15 YEARS TO TO PAY IT BACK OR FROM THE TIME IT STARTS, IT'S ONLY 15. SO IT'S A ONE TIME PAYMENT IF YOU CHOOSE TO, IF YOU CHOOSE TO PAY THE, YOU HAVE TO PAY IN FULL IN ORDER TO CONNECT.

AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL FEES. ONE TIME FEE.

OKAY, I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT. YEAH. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SPLITTING THAT OVER THE TIME PERIOD.

YEAH. VERY DIFFERENT THAN A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT. RIGHT. WHICH WOULD BE SOME PERIOD OF 5 TO 20 YEARS, WHATEVER THE REASON, WITH 5% INTEREST ON THE OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL BALANCE.

WHEREAS HERE IT'S JUST THE LUMP SUM AMOUNT OF 11,666.

BUT THAT AMOUNT WILL INCREASE BY 5% EACH YEAR, ROUNDED TO THE WHOLE DOLLAR.

THEN MY WHOLE DISCUSSION IS IMMATERIAL [LAUGHS].

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE LENTZ. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. DEPUTY MANAGER OPSOMMER.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF SOMEONE CHOSE TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS SYSTEM, THEY ARE NOT COMPELLED IN ANY WAY TO DO SO.

IF THEY CHOSE TO AT THE TIME THAT THEIR SEPTIC SYSTEM FAILS, IF THEY WANT TO REPLACE IT ON THEIR OWN, THEY ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO JOIN THE SYSTEM.

IS THAT ACCURATE? SO THAT THAT IS NOT ACCURATE IF THEIR SEPTIC SYSTEM IS FAILING.

BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ACCESS, MEANING IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC SANITARY MAIN ALONG YOUR FRONTAGE, EGLE WOULD DETERMINE THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS AND THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE ENTITY THAT WOULD COMPEL THE CONNECTION.

BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC SANITARY.

ESSENTIALLY IN MICHIGAN, IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC SANITARY MAIN ALONG YOUR FRONTAGE, WHEN YOUR PRIVATE SEPTIC FIELD FAILS, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT TO REPLACE IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, SO LONG AS THEY THEIR SYSTEM IS WORKING OR COULD BE REPAIRED, IF IT'S NOT A FULL REPLACEMENT, THEY COULD REPAIR THEIR SYSTEM DEPENDING ON THE EXTENT OF THE REPAIRS AND KEEP IT.

FANTASTIC. AND DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE ATTEMPTED? MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP IS UNLIKE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS OR NEW BUILDS.

THIS IS A NEW TYPE OF MECHANISM FOR PAYBACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THE TOOL HAS BEEN THERE IN THE TOOLBOX, MEANING WE'VE HAD THE PAYBACK DISTRICTS IN THE ORDINANCE AND WE HAVE USED IT.

WE HAVE PAYBACK DISTRICTS, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY WHERE WE'VE DONE IT FOR PROPERTY OWNERS.

RIGHT. EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS OF JUST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

WHAT WE'VE USED IT FOR IN THE PAST WOULD BE, FOR INSTANCE SIERRA RIDGE, RIGHT? WE HAD THAT STREET LIGHT SAID SIERRA RIDGE IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NEWTON AND LAKE LANSING.

A LIFT STATION WAS CONSTRUCTED. WHEN YOU DRIVE BY ON LAKE LANSING, YOU NOTICE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF PUMPING STATION BEHIND THE ARBORVITAE THERE.

THAT LIFT STATION ALSO SERVES NEWTON POINT TO THE NORTH.

SO THERE'S A PAYBACK DISTRICT THERE WHERE THE DEVELOPER OF NEWTON POINT PAYS BACK.

SIERRA RIDGE, THE DEVELOPER OF SIERRA RIDGE FOR THE EQUITY IN THAT LIFT STATION.

SO WE'VE USED IT FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE EVER USED IT TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER FOR, I GUESS WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER JUST ORDINARY PROPERTY OWNERS WITH, YOU KNOW, PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE EXEMPTIONS, RIGHT? THAT'S THEIR PERMANENT RESIDENCE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY RESIDE.

SO WE'VE USED IT MORE FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.

AND WE'RE USING IT NOW FOR JUST ORDINARY PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE THE COST OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS,

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WHICH YOU HAVE TO PAY EVEN BEFORE YOU CONNECT.

AND THE COST OF GRAVITY SEWERS HAS GOTTEN SO UNTENABLE.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A NEW FRAMEWORK THAT WE CREATED TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE TO EXTEND PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER TO FOLKS.

AND SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK TO USE MORE IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE CASES LIKE THIS.

YOU, YOU ARE LEADING INTO WHAT I WAS PLANNING ON ASKING NEXT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU IMAGINE BEING A MECHANISM MECHANISM THAT WE WILL USE MOVING FORWARD AT ALL IN, IN ANY SERIOUS CAPACITY, LIKE MONITORING? OKAY. YOU'RE SHAKING. YES. AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF IN PERPETUITY, HALF OF THESE INDIVIDUALS DON'T WANT TO JOIN, JOIN THIS PAYBACK DISTRICT FOR, LET'S SAY, TEN YEARS.

AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SMALL SECTION, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, LARGE ISSUE, BUT IF THERE ARE 10 OR 20 OF THEM AROUND THE TOWNSHIP, ARE THERE ANY FINANCIAL SHORTFALLS THAT I GUESS I'M ASKING THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT UNTIL THE PAYBACK DISTRICT IS ACTUALLY PAID BACK.

WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE MONETARY SIDE OF THINGS FOR THE FROM THE TOWNSHIP'S PERSPECTIVE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WITH OLD WATER AND SEWER.

YEAH. SO ESSENTIALLY, OUT OF OUR $29 MILLION CONSTRUCTION BUDGET, ON THE SANITARY SEWER SIDE, WE TOOK APPROXIMATELY 175,000 OF THAT. SO A SMALL PERCENTAGE AND INVESTED IT IN THIS.

AND THEN WE WILL RECOUP OUR COST PLUS 5% INTEREST ANNUALLY.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR TRUE RECOUP WILL BE, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THESE SYSTEMS ARE GOING TO FAIL OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF WE HAVEN'T HAD ALL 15 PROPERTIES CONNECT OVER THE NEXT 15 TO 20 YEARS.

SO AT THAT POINT, WE WILL HAVE RECOUPED OUR COST.

AND THE SEWER FUND, THE ENTERPRISE FUND WILL HAVE BEEN MADE WHOLE.

OKAY. SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT THAT ADDRESSES MY CONCERN CONSIDERING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE WATER AND SEWER RATE STUDY THAT A LOT OF UNDERGROUND PIPES ON THE MIND RIGHT NOW. SO THANK YOU. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ON ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS AS AN ALTERNATIVE.

THE LAST TIME WE TRIED DOING AN ASSESSMENT DISTRICT FOR WATER OR SANITARY, IT WAS THE SLEEPY HOLLOW NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LAKE LANSING ROAD, RIGHT BY NEWTON.

THEY WANTED TO, TO EXTEND SANITARY, I BELIEVE, INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT I COULD BE WRONG. IT COULD HAVE BEEN WATER.

IT WAS PRE PANDEMIC. IT WAS AROUND 2017. AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH AN ASSESSMENT DISTRICT IS YOU START WITH A VERY HIGH LEVEL CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE. AND IT TAKES SO LONG FOR THE RESIDENTS TO GATHER PETITIONS.

YOU REALLY NEED ONE PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO AND CIRCULATE PETITIONS, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST USUALLY GOING TO BE ONE PERSON THAT KIND OF LEADS THAT EFFORT.

AND BY THE TIME YOU GET THOSE AND YOU GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC ACT 188 PROCESS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU JUST WENT THROUGH ON THE STREET LIGHTS.

BY THE TIME THAT ALL OCCURS, IT'S OFTEN A YEAR TO A YEAR AND A HALF LATER, THE COST HAS GONE UP.

SO THEN YOU HAVE TO BREAK THE BAD NEWS AND EVENTUALLY THE COST INCREASES BEFORE YOU CAN EVER GET TO RESOLUTION FIVE, CAUSE PEOPLE TO WITHDRAW THEIR SUPPORT AND IT ALL FALLS APART.

AND SO A LOT OF STAFF RESOURCE GOES INTO KIND OF A LOSING EFFORT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IN MANY CASES.

THERE'S CERTAINLY EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. BUT WITH POST PANDEMIC INFLATION IT GETS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.

AND JUST TO SORT OF FOLLOW UP ON TRUSTEE LENTZ QUESTION SO THAT THE PORTION THAT HASN'T YET BEEN REPAID HANGS OUT ON THE TOWNSHIP BALANCE SHEET AS A LIABILITY OR AS A DEBT FOR UNTIL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE RECOUP THAT.

YES, ESSENTIALLY WE WILL JUST TRACK OUR RECOUPING OF THESE FEES IN A SPREADSHEET AND TRACK THE PAYBACKS OVER TIME AS FOLKS CONNECT.

AND IT IS I MEAN, THE CONNECTIONS ARE ALL LIKE THE BULK OF THE COST HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPENDED, RIGHT? YEAH. AND SO THEORETICALLY, IF PEOPLE WAIT 15, 20 YEARS TO JOIN THE TOWNSHIP COULD END UP ACTUALLY MAKING MONEY ON THIS.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AT.

YEAH. IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LOOK AT THE ASSUMPTION OF 5%.

RIGHT. I COULD ARGUE AND I COULD OBTAIN DATA THAT SUPPORTS AN ARGUMENT THAT INFLATION IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AT TIMES EXCEEDS

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5%. AND SO ONE COULD ARGUE THAT PERHAPS THE CONSTRUCTION WAS DONE.

YEAH. THE CONSTRUCTION'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. YES.

CORRECT. SO WE'VE EXPENDED 100% OF THOSE FUNDS AND THEN WE WILL RECOVER THEM SLOWLY OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS.

YES, ONE PARCEL AT A TIME. IT'S JUST. IT'S THE COST OF US EXPENDING THAT AHEAD OF TIME FOR YOU POTENTIALLY NEEDING IT.

YEAH. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. TRUSTEE WILSON. ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? IS THERE ANY FURTHER? WELL, YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION, AND WE CAN DISCUSS AFTERWARD. THAT'S FINE. MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE 2026 CORNELL WHITE OAKS. RIGHT WIND FOX CHASE SANITARY SEWER PAYBACK DISTRICT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE WILSON, SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE LENTZ.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? TRUSTEE LENTZ. YEAH. I YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS FRIENDS WHO ARE NEW TO MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP BECAUSE OF THE AGE RANGE THAT I FALL INTO. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO MOVE INTO CERTAIN AREAS SOMETIMES FEEL THAT WE NO, WE EXCUSE ME THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS HOME THAT THEY'RE PROCURING. I'M CURIOUS.

DAN IS THERE. I IMAGINE EVERYONE WHO LIVES THERE NOW IS VERY AWARE OF THIS PAYBACK DISTRICT AS A, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN BE A PART OF. IS THERE A PLAN SET IN PLACE FOR FUTURE HOMEOWNERS WHO MOVE IN, WHO MIGHT NOT BE COMPLETELY AWARE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY? I GO AHEAD. SO WHAT WE COULD DO, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, BUT WHAT WE COULD DO VERY EASILY IS WE COULD GO AND RECORD THE SIGNED RESOLUTION AND THE SPREADSHEET TABLE AND RECORD IT ON EACH OF THE 15 PARCELS.

AND WHEN THEY DO TITLE SEARCH WHEN THEY'RE PURCHASING THE HOME, THEN THEY SHOULD FIND OUT.

OTHERWISE WE WOULD SIMPLY BE RELYING UPON THEM TO CALL US.

AND THE PERSON ANSWERING THAT CALL TO GIVE A FULL AND COMPLETE ANSWER.

BUT THERE'S NO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S NO ASSESSMENT ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTY.

SO THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ASSESSMENT TO FIND IN THIS CASE.

SO BUT WE CAN KIND OF DO A WORKAROUND AND RECORD THE SIGNED RESOLUTION ON EACH PARCEL, SO THAT FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO AVAIL THEMSELVES TO THAT INFORMATION. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC IDEA.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW WHAT IT MEANS TO MOVE IN, ESPECIALLY OF YOUNG KIDS AND MAYBE JOINING SCHOOL AND ALL THAT.

SO THE ABILITY TO SEE THIS INFORMATION, AND AS YOU SAID, THIS PROBABLY BEING A MECHANISM THAT WE USE IN THE FUTURE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE TOWNSHIP ADOPT THIS AS A POLICY MOVING FORWARD FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CLERK DEMAS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? TRUSTEE WILSON.

YES. CLERK DEMAS. YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT. YES.

TRUSTEE LENTZ. YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND. YES. TRUSTEE TREZISE.

YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON. YES. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP IS ITEM 12, A PERMANENT DYNAMIC SPEED DISPLAY SIGN, MASTER PLAN AND POLICY.

[12.A. Permanent Dynamic Speed Display Sign Master Plan and Policy]

DEPUTY MANAGER OPSOMMER REMAINS AT THE PODIUM TO HOLD THE FLOOR TO TELL US MORE.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN.

SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON AND BOARD MEMBERS. SO THIS IS ONE THAT CHIEF GRILLO AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR SOME TIME.

CHIEF GRILLO WENT THROUGH THE WORK OF SECURING QUOTES AND SPECS FOR THESE PERMANENT SPEED DISPLAY SIGNS FROM THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS. OF COURSE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FEATURES THAT YOU CAN USE.

AND PERHAPS AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, IF YOU HAVE REALLY DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THE SPECIFICATIONS CHIEF GRILLO COULD SPEAK TO THOSE.

I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM, BUT MORE OR LESS THE SAME COST THAT WE QUOTE IN THERE WAS ONE OF THE MORE DYNAMIC PRODUCTS IN TERMS OF ITS USE IN TERMS OF LIKE HAVING PERHAPS RED OR BLUE FLASHING LIGHTS, RIGHT? WHEN YOU EXCEED A CERTAIN THRESHOLD ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

IT WAS ALSO A BETTER FABRICATED PRODUCT IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE DAMAGE BEING OUT THERE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND IT DOES NOT COME WITH ANY SOFTWARE OR ANNUAL FEES IN PERPETUITY.

SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING. IT'S JUST A ONE TIME COST OF PURCHASE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE IT IF AND WHEN IT IS DAMAGED.

[01:05:05]

SO WE FOUND A GOOD PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DEPLOY.

AND AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE SPEEDING COMPLAINTS AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ARE AND IS PERHAPS THE MOST FREQUENT COMPLAINT THAT WE RECEIVE.

WE GET REQUESTS ALL THE TIME FOR THE TEMPORARY SPEED DISPLAY SIGNS TO BE CIRCULATED AROUND.

SO CHIEF GRILLO AND I DISCUSSED KIND OF SOME OF THE PROBLEM AREAS.

AND A LOT OF THAT IS INFORMED BY THE SPEED STUDIES THAT HE CONDUCTS WITH THE CURRENT EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN OF COURSE ON HEWITT ROAD, WE COULD NOT FIT ONE OF THE MEDIAN ISLANDS IN BETWEEN THE SHARP 15 MILE PER HOUR CURVE AND THE CSX RAILROAD. SO WE'RE PROPOSING A PERMANENT SPEED DISPLAY SIGN, OR PERHAPS TWO, ONE IN EACH DIRECTION THERE AS A REPLACEMENT FOR THE TWO SPEED HUMPS THAT ARE BEING LOST FOR TRAFFIC CALMING PURPOSES. THE OTHER LOCATIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY SCHOOL ZONES OR AS YOU ENTER THE TOWNSHIP ON A STEEP HILL COMING DOWN FROM BATH TOWNSHIP ON MARSH ROAD, AND THEN THE 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED ZONE ON HASLETT ROAD. OF COURSE, PEOPLE ARE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, TRAVELING AS IF IT WERE 35MPH AS THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT THROUGHOUT HASLETT ROAD UNTIL YOU GET TO THE 45.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE FOUR KEY AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.

OBVIOUSLY THERE IS COST TO THIS. SO RIGHT NOW I'LL BE CANDID THAT OUR CONSTRAINT IS COST.

SO WE TRIED TO IDENTIFY THE FOUR HIGHEST PRIORITY AREAS.

AND THEN AS A MATTER OF POLICY TO KIND OF GOVERN THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET REQUESTS.

ONCE PEOPLE SEE THESE SIGNS DEPLOYED AND THEY DON'T MOVE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO REQUEST THEM.

AND SO GIVEN THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DEPLOY THEM EVERYWHERE AND NOR WOULD THE ROAD DEPARTMENT WANT THEM.

AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEEMED AN EXCESS IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO GIVEN THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GOVERN THIS SIMILAR TO THE PATHWAY SYSTEM AND HAVE A DESIGNATED MAP THAT SERVES AS A MASTER PLAN, THAT THESE ARE WHERE THEY ARE AUTHORIZED CURRENTLY TO BE DEPLOYED.

AND PEOPLE COULD CERTAINLY REQUEST THAT WE REVISIT THE MASTER PLAN, AND WE CAN REVISIT THAT FROM TIME TO TIME, JUST AS WE DO WITH ANY OF THE VARIOUS MASTER PLANS.

SO IN CONCEPT, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BROUGHT FORTH.

WE DO THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AVAILABLE FUNDING IN THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUND THIS YEAR TO PROCURE THE SIGNS.

IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WORKED WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE ROAD DEPARTMENT.

THE NEW MANAGING DIRECTOR OVER THERE WAS GREAT TO WORK WITH.

I THINK HE TURNED AROUND THE DRAFT POLICY THAT YOU SEE IN THE BOARD PACKET WITHIN 48 HOURS OF US REACHING OUT, WHICH WAS OUTSTANDING. AND THE INGHAM COUNTY ROAD AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY ADOPTED THAT POLICY.

SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO. AND THE ONE THING I WOULD NOTE AS WELL FOR THE COUNTY, AND TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY EXEMPTED THE CURRENT TEMPORARY SPEED DISPLAY SIGNS THAT WE CIRCULATE AROUND THE COMMUNITY FROM THEIR POLICY.

SO THE NEW POLICY DOESN'T INTEND ON RESTRICTING THOSE IN ANY MANNER.

SO THAT WAS A VERY FAIR AND EQUITABLE POLICY FOR US THAT THEY CRAFTED.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOARD MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? CLERK DEMAS. DEPUTY MANAGER OPSOMMER I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE THESE SIGNS WOULD BE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY STUDIES TO REFERENCE OR JUST DATA THAT WE HAVE REGARDING THE TEMPORARY DISPLAY SIGNS.

JUST GIVEN THE THE COST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE BENEFICIAL AND EFFECTIVE.

YEAH. SO I THINK I DON'T KNOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS THIS DATA, BUT I KNOW WE COULD PROCURE IT.

SO WE CAN, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, WITH OUR CURRENT SIGNS, WE CAN DISPLAY SPEED AND RECORD SPEED AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WE COULD SHOW YOU WE PUT IT ON THE EXACT SAME POST FOR ONE WEEK WITH THE SIGN DISPLAYED OR YOUR SPEED DISPLAYED, AND THIS WAS THE 55TH OR THE 50TH PERCENTILE SPEED, THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED VERSUS WHEN WE TURN THE SPEED DISPLAY OFF.

AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THERE. WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT A WEEK OR TWO GAP IN THERE, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE TWO DATA SETS THAT ALIGN.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I DON'T THINK WE DO BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE RECORDING SPEED, WE NEVER DISPLAY SPEED.

BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE IMPACTING THAT SPEED AND PRODUCING A RESULT.

[01:10:07]

THAT ISN'T THE TRUE SPEED ON THAT ROADWAY. SO I CAN CHECK AND SEE IF WE HAVE THAT.

AND IF NOT, WE CAN CERTAINLY CAPTURE THAT. THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE THAT FOR 1 OR 2 OF THE LOCATIONS.

YOU KNOW, HOW MANY LOCATIONS WOULD YOU WANT THAT? OR WOULD ONE LOCATION SUFFICE FOR THAT KIND OF STUDY TO QUANTIFY THE IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE? I, I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT AS WELL.

I, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE BENEFIT OF THESE DISPLAY SIGNS.

I KNOW THAT THEY DO HAVE A BENEFIT, BUT JUST SO THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY THE COST.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I, I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT IT'S CAPABLE OF DOING IT.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT CHIEF GRILLO ALREADY HAS SOME INFORMATION.

I KNOW THAT HE, AT THE REQUEST OF A COUPLE OF MY NEIGHBORS, PUT ONE ON TO SOUR ROAD AND HAD DECENT DATA FROM A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF TURNED ON, TURNED OFF RECORDING.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ASKING HIM FOR THAT.

AND I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN, HE MAY HAVE DONE A VERY SIMILAR THING ON HASLETT ROAD AS WELL AS A RESULT OF A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS ASKING FOR THOSE SPEED SIGNS TO BE UP THERE TOO.

SO I THINK IF CHIEF GRILLO CAN PROVIDE THAT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.

AND IF HE DOESN'T, THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY DO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING AND GO GET IT.

BUT I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT HE ALREADY HAS ACCESS TO SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.

ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN DO THAT. AND SORRY, ONE LAST QUESTION.

DO THESE DISPLAY SIGNS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM FROM THE PREFERRED VENDOR.

DO THEY LOOK ANYTHING DIFFERENT. DO THEY LOOK DIFFERENT FROM THE TEMPORARY DISPLAY SIGNS.

NO. NO. THERE'S JUST A FEW FEATURES WHERE WE CAN HAVE LIKE A FLASHING WHITE LIGHT OR I THINK FLASHING RED AND BLUE.

BUT I LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS AND THREE DIFFERENT SPECS, AND I HAVE THEM KIND OF JUST, I MIGHT BE MIS ASSOCIATING THE VARIOUS FEATURES.

BUT WE BOTH CONCURRED THAT THIS WAS THE PREFERRED VENDOR AND THAT FOR THE AMOUNT QUOTED IN YOUR COVER MEMORANDUM.

TRUSTEE LENTZ. THANK YOU. AND IF THIS QUESTION IS ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.

THAT'S FOR ME, BUT LOOKING AT THE INGHAM COUNTY THE DISPLAY POLICY NUMBER NINE MENTIONS ENFORCEMENT AND DATA USAGE. AND I AM CURIOUS IF YOU ARE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS DEPUTY MANAGER OPSOMMER.

EXCUSE ME. IS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONGOING FEE ATTACHED TO THESE, THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE NO.

BUT IS THERE DATA THAT IS TRACKED AND SHARED BEYOND YOU KNOW, THE FOUR WALLS OF THE MERIDIAN POLICE DEPARTMENT. DOES THIS DOES THIS COLLECT INFORMATION OTHER THAN THE SPEED AND TIME OF AN OBJECT MOVING PAST THOSE DISPLAYS? I ASKED BECAUSE OF THE NATIONAL CONVERSATION THAT I'M SURE WE'VE ALL SEEN ABOUT SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS AND YOU KNOW, MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP'S ROLE IN THAT, I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S VERY CLEAR TO ANYONE LISTENING RIGHT NOW.

I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS NO. I KNOW ONE OF THEM HAD A CAMERA FRONT FACING, BUT IT WAS MORE FOR DETECTING VANDALS.

OKAY. AND WE WEREN'T I, I WASN'T REALLY MOVED BY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD VANDALISM ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING SIGNS.

SO TO DATE THAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT WOULD NOT HAVE SAVED US ANY COST.

BUT SO I BELIEVE THERE'S NO CAMERA OR RECORDING EQUIPMENT WHATSOEVER ON THE SIDES.

OKAY, BUT I WILL CONFIRM THAT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.

YEAH, I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, I SEE, YOU KNOW, APPLICABLE PRIVACY AND DATA HANDLING GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE GUIDELINES ARE IF, IF IT'S ABLE TO BE, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS WITH WITH INGHAM COUNTY ROAD DEPARTMENT OR MAYBE ANOTHER ENTITY, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS IF THE ANSWER IS JUST NO. IT'S JUST HOW FAST AN OBJECT MOVES PAST THAT.

I THINK THAT BRINGS ABOUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

YEAH, I BELIEVE IT'S ALL JUST BLIND DATA, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT A UNIT PASSED BY RIGHT AT A CERTAIN TIME.

WE KNOW HOW FAST THAT UNIT WAS GOING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT UNIT.

IT'S MOSTLY FOR LOOKING AT THE DATA IN AGGREGATE, THE 50TH PERCENTILE AND THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED ARE USUALLY THE MOST INFORMATIVE FOR US.

BUT IT ALSO WE CAN PROGRAM IT TO TRACK. WE CAN SET A CERTAIN MILE PER HOUR ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT AND TRACK WHAT PERCENTAGE OF TRIPS EXCEEDED

[01:15:01]

THIS, RIGHT? AND TYPICALLY, DEPENDING ON THE ROADWAY AND THE SPEED LIMIT, IT'S GOING TO BE THAT THRESHOLD IS GOING TO BE SET BASED ON WHERE AN OFFICER WOULD ACTUALLY PULL SOMEONE OVER AND WRITE A CITATION ON THAT ROADWAY.

THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE IMAGERY THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER HERE AND THE PLACEMENTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED FOR THE IMMEDIATE I KNOW I'VE CERTAINLY SPOKEN WITH A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS ON HASLETT ROAD WHO ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPEED THERE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UPS, WHICH IS, WHICH ARE THE FIRST WOULD BE YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING IN THE POLICY, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A MAP THAT SHOWS WHAT, WHERE THEY COULD END UP AT SOME POINT BASED ON THE FIVE CRITERIA THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED. THAT WAY WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHERE WE WHERE WITH FUNDING, WE MIGHT SEE THESE ACTUALLY POP UP.

AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS THE OTHER, THERE ARE TWO OTHER SPOTS THAT I KNOW I'VE HEARD A FAIR AMOUNT ABOUT.

THE ONE IS THE GRAVEL SECTION OF VAN ATTA. I KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE BLOWING DOWN VAN ATTA AND HITTING THAT GRAVEL. AND THEN ALSO ON LAKE LANSING IN THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE TOWNSHIP.

AND SO I'D BE, I'D BE CURIOUS AS WE UPDATE THOSE MAPS, ARE EITHER OF THOSE LOCATIONS GOING TO BE INCLUDED OR CONSIDERED BASED ON THE CRITERIA? BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND A GOOD PIECE OF THAT CRITERIA THAT WOULD APPLY TO EITHER OF THOSE TWO AREAS.

AND I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE AREAS OF CONCERN FOR A LOT OF FOLKS.

WELL, THE I THINK FOR VAN ATTA, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A CHANGE IN THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

BECAUSE ONCE YOU HIT A GRAVEL ROAD, IT'S AN UNPOSTED 55.

OKAY. AND WHEN YOU'RE ON THE PAVED SECTION, IT'S WHATEVER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT IS.

YOU'RE REFERRING, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE GRAVEL PORTION.

SO YOU'RE REFERRING TO NORTH OF GRAND RIVER AVENUE, CORRECT? YES. JUST JUST SOUTH OF TYGART. YEAH. BASICALLY APPROACHING THE S CURVE. YEAH.

OH, YEAH. ALL THE MORE. ALL THE MORE CONCERNING THAT PEOPLE ARE BLOWING DOWN AT 70 MILES AN HOUR.

IT'S 35 THERE. YEAH, IT'S 35. 35. YEAH. YEAH.

SO WHENEVER WE'RE TRANSITIONING FROM ASPHALT TO GRAVEL, UNLESS THE SPEED LIMIT IS 55 ENTERING THAT, THAT WOULD APPLY. SO THAT AREA WOULD APPLY. WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF CONSIDERED THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD.

AND THERE IS SIGNAGE WARNING RIGHT. THERE'S STANDARD ROADWAY SIGNAGE WARNING YOU THAT IT'S CONVERTING TO PAVED GRAVEL.

AND THE CONDITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF BEEN CONSIDERED A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE ALONG WITH THE S CURVE.

SURE IS. AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. LAKE LANSING AND THE SORT OF NORTHWESTERN AREA OF THE TOWNSHIP. YEAH. WHICH MIGHT, WHICH MIGHT BE 1000FT FROM THE BORDER, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING.

CORRECT. 1000FT FROM THE CITY BOUNDARY THERE.

I CAN SHOW YOU REAL QUICK. THE CHALLENGE WILL BE IN PRODUCING A MAP LIKE YOU REQUESTED.

THE CHALLENGE WILL BE THAT THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT CHANGES IN A LOT OF PLACES.

WE DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE. WE HAVE STARTED TALKING TO THE ROAD DEPARTMENT ABOUT SHARING WHATEVER GIS DATA THEY HAVE, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT'S VERY LIMITED WITH US, AND WE WOULD EXCHANGE SOME OF OUR UTILITY GIS INFORMATION.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA ON WHERE THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT CHANGES LIKE MAPPED OUT.

SO IT WOULD BE A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE A MAP THAT IS COMPLETE IN THAT SENSE, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST LOOK AT STREET VIEW TO CONSULT AND FIND SPEED LIMIT CHANGES. BUT 1000FT WOULD PUT YOU ALMOST AT SKYLINE.

OH, OKAY. OH THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S THE CORNER THERE.

YEAH. TOWNSHIP HERE. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THIS WOULD BE THE CITY OF EAST LANSING.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT.

[01:20:06]

YEAH. NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. AND I HOPEFULLY WE SEE SOME BEHAVIORAL CHANGE WITH THIS BECAUSE AS, AS WE'VE HEARD AT OUR LISTENING SESSIONS, THE SPEEDING IS A TOP COMPLAINT THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT WHAT THIS DOES TO HELP THAT.

TRUSTEE TREZISE. I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND COST PER SIGN IS REASONABLE.

SO ONE TIME COSTS OTHER THAN SOME MAINTENANCE AND ELECTRICITY.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THESE PLACES. PUT THEM APPROPRIATELY AND SEE HOW MUCH BENEFIT THEY GIVE US. AND THESE ARE SOLAR POWERED SIGNS. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS PILOT SOLAR ONLY AND NOT HARDWIRE, BECAUSE THE COST WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY GREATER TO HARDWIRE THESE.

THE COST WOULD MORE THAN DOUBLE JUST TO BRING ELECTRICAL SERVICE TO THEM AND SET A METER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PILOT SOLAR. THE ONLY LOCATION THAT I'M SLIGHTLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE CANOPY ON HEWITT.

BUT WE NEED TO TEST THAT CONDITION ANYWAY AND SEE IF HOW EFFECTIVE SOLAR ONLY POWERED DEVICES CAN BE IN THAT KIND OF CONDITION WHERE YOU HAVE THAT MUCH CANOPY. SURE.

IT'LL HELP INFORM OTHER DECISIONS LIKE RFPS. SO IT'S WORTH AT LEAST TRYING.

AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND START WORKING WITH CONSUMERS.

THEY CAN BE MOVED TOO. GREAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AND WE'LL SEE THIS NEXT TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS ITEM 13 COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NON, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED AT 7:20.

NEXT IS OTHER MATTERS AND BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. ANY OTHER MATTERS THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT THEN.

WE HAVE A DUAL MOTION FOR CLOSED SESSION. LUCKY US.

[15. CLOSED SESSION]

TRUSTEE TREZISE MOVE TO ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO MCL 15.268(1)(D) TO DISCUSS THE TOWNSHIP'S PURCHASE OR LEASE OF PROPERTY AND A MOTION TO ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO MCL 15.268(H) FOR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING A CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL OPINION REGARDING THE PENDING MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP VERSUS WEST SHORE FIRE INCORPORATED LITIGATION WITH THE TOWNSHIP ATTORNEY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE TREZISE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WILSON. CLERK DEMAS. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? CLERK DEMAS. YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT. YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ.

YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND. YES. YES. SORRY. TRUSTEE TREZISE.

YES. TRUSTEE WILSON. YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON.

YES. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. ALL RIGHT. WE ENTER CLOSED SESSION.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'RE NOT IN CLOSED SESSION, WOULD YOU PLEASE CLEAR THE ROOM? ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL REENTER OPEN SESSION AT 8:20 P.M.. TRUSTEE TREZISE.

YES. I HAVE TWO MOTIONS TO MAKE. THE FIRST IS PERTAINING TO.

WE ENTERED INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ONGOING LITIGATION WITH MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP VERSUS WEST SHORE FIRE.

AND I MOVED THAT WE AUTHORIZE COUNSEL TO GO FORWARD AND ACCEPT HIS RECOMMENDATION AS MADE IN CLOSED SESSION.

SUPPORT. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE TREZISE SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE WILSON CLERK DEMAS.

WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? TREASURER BURGHARDT.

YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ. YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND. YES.

TRUSTEE TREZISE. YES. TRUSTEE WILSON. YES. CLERK DEMAS.

YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON. YES. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TRUSTEE TREZISE. YES. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION HAD TO DO WITH THE PURCHASE OR LEASE OF PROPERTY, AND I PROPOSE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SUPERVISOR OR, NOT SUPERVISOR, TOWNSHIP MANAGER AND STAFF TO PROCEED TO DISCUSS FURTHER THE POSSIBLE PURCHASE OR LEASE OF PROPERTY, AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION, UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND HAS BEEN APPROVED AS A BARGAINING POINT. SUPPORT. I WOULD ASK THE THAT WE PERHAPS REMOVE THE WORDS OR APPROVED AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, SINCE WE'RE NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE ANY APPROVALS.

THE MOTION WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE THE MANAGER TO DISCUSS PURCHASE OR LEASE OF PROPERTY, AS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE AMOUNTS AT

[01:25:04]

CLOSED SESSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. TRUSTEE WILSON.

DO YOU ALSO ACCEPT THAT? YES, I ACCEPT THAT. THANK YOU.

CLERK DEMAS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? TRUSTEE LENTZ.

YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND. YES. TRUSTEE TREZISE. YES.

TRUSTEE WILSON. YES. CLERK DEMAS. YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT.

YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON. YES. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 16.

ADJOURNMENT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOVED BY TRUSTEE LENTZ. SUPPORT. SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE WILSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE STAND ADJOURNED AT 8:22 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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