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AND THAT'S NOT SNEAKING UP ON ANYONE. THEY'RE.
VERY GREAT. WHAT WERE YOU GUYS UP TO? OH. THAT'S RIGHT.
IT WAS A LITTLE CHILLY OUT, SO IT WASN'T REALLY A BEACH DAY.
ON A. FRIDAY THE 28TH. THAT'S GREAT. SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO GET HER. OKAY.
WE'LL GIVE THEM ANOTHER MOMENT OR TWO. SHE'S COMING.
AND TIME. ONE OF MY DAUGHTER'S BEST FRIEND'S HUSBAND PASSED AWAY.
OH, THAT IS TOO BAD TO HEAR. HE WAS MOVING BACK FROM FLORIDA.
IT WAS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF FROM HOME.
PRETTY BAD. THE DOG SURVIVED. SO IT'S BEEN A ROUGH COUPLE OF WEEKS.
MARNA, SPEAKING OF BROKEN CHAIRS. SORRY, I DISTRACTED.
YEAH. THIS CHAIR IS LIKE WOBBLING. YEAH, I KNOW.
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HAVE ANY NOTES ON THIS ONE? BEAUTIFUL THING. SO.[1. CALL MEETING TO ORDER ]
IT IS 6:08 P.M.. WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE TOWNSHIP BOARD OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP TO ORDER.ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ROLL CALL WITH CLERK DEMAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? HERE. CLERK DEMAS? HERE.
TREASURER BURGHARDT? HERE. TRUSTEE LENTZ? HERE.
TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? HERE. TRUSTEE TREZISE? HERE.
TRUSTEE WILSON? HERE. SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 4.A.
[4. PRESENTATIONS ]
PRESENTATIONS. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM RANGER HERE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON OUR ANNUAL UPDATE.RANGER WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YES. MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOOD. OKAY. YES. GOOD EVENING.
SUPERVISOR, TRUSTEES, MANAGER. THIS IS WITH ME TODAY IS MICHELLE PITTS.
SHE IS OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND EVENTS COORDINATOR AT GRANGER WASTE SERVICES.
AND I AM CHARLES HAUSER, THE GOVERNMENTAL AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS MANAGER.
WE DO A LOT OF WORK IN THIS TOWNSHIP, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF.
AND WHILE YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE DATA FROM EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY FROM OUR COMPANY, IT'S STILL SOME REALLY GREAT STUFF. BUT I SAW TRUSTEE WILSON AT A GOLF OUTING. I SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THESE IN THE PAST WHERE WE WERE DOING IT ANNUALLY,
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AND THEN IT KIND OF STOPPED AND THEN IT PICKED UP AND LET'S JUST MAKE THIS AN ANNUAL THING.OH, I HAVE. DO I HAVE CONTROL? YOU DO. YEAH. YOU CAN DO THAT.
THANK YOU. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A SLIDE THAT JUST SHOWS YOU OUT OF THE CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE OUR TRASH, OUR TRASH SERVICE THOSE WHO UTILIZE WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE FREE OR NO ADDITIONAL COST RECYCLING.
SO GRANGER AND THE TOWNSHIP HAVE AN AGREEMENT WHERE THE, IF YOU HAVE TRASH SERVICE, A CART TRASH SERVICE WITH US THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE OPTION AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO GET A 96 GALLON RECYCLE CART, THE YELLOW TOP CART SO YOU CAN RECYCLE AT YOUR HOUSE SINGLE STREAM.
SO JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS NUMBER, IT HASN'T NECESSARILY GROWN.
BUT THIS IS AN AMAZING NUMBER COMPARED TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK WITH.
78% PARTICIPATION IS FANTASTIC. AND YOU KNOW, COMING FROM MERIDIAN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SURPRISE, BUT IT IS VERY, VERY GOOD. JUST FOR TOTALS HERE.
NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL RECYCLING, SINGLE STREAM YOUR, YOUR NUMBER FOR 2025 THAT HAS COME OUT OF MERIDIAN IS 03,082,860 APPROXIMATELY POUNDS OF RECYCLING THAT WAS COLLECTED WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.
YOU WILL ALSO SEE PEOPLE START TO REUSE A LOT MORE, BUY LESS.
AND THAT MIGHT GET US A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE INFORMATION AS WELL.
BUT DON'T, DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM 3 MILLION POUNDS OF RECYCLING.
AGAIN, THIS IS PHENOMENAL AND A HUGE NUMBER FOR A COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY GOOD STUFF. WE GET THIS DATA FROM THE EPA.
THERE'S A, THERE'S IMPLEMENTATION WHERE YOU CAN ENTER THAT, THAT 3 MILLION NUMBER.
SO WE'LL SAY YOUR 3 MILLION RECYCLING SAVES APPROXIMATELY 26,000 TREES, OR 6.3 MILLION KILOWATTS OF ENERGY, OR OVER 92,000 POUNDS OF AIR POLLUTION, OR 10.79 GALLONS OF WATER THAT'S POTENTIALLY CONSERVED.
AND THEN AND GENERALLY AROUND 5133YD³ OF LANDFILL SPACE THAT IS SAVED FROM GENERALLY THAT NUMBER OF DIVERSION THAT COMES OUT OF THE 3 MILLION POUNDS OF RECYCLING.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF OUR SERVICES THAT WE DO PROVIDE.
SO IT IS EVERY OTHER WEEK SCHEDULE. AND THIS IS THAT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE RECYCLING CART THAT YOUR, YOUR OR YOUR RESIDENTS RECEIVE WITH THE CART TRASH SERVICE THROUGH GRANGER.
THAT IS SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING THAT'S COLLECTED.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT SINGLE STREAM IS YOU CAN KIND OF PUT ALL YOUR RECYCLABLES IN ONE CONTAINER.
IT DOES GO TO A LOCAL FACILITY HERE CALLED EMTERRA IN LANSING, WHERE EMTERRA HAS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY THAT SEPARATES IT ALL INTO BALES OF A SINGLE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT IS THEN SENT TO AND SOLD TO END USERS.
BUT SOME OF THAT MATERIAL IS CORRUGATED CARDBOARD, PLASTIC BOTTLES, JUGS, MIXED PAPER, TIN CANS, ALUMINUM BOX BOARD AND BEVERAGE GLASSES, AMONG A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
TETRA TECH CONTAINERS. AND THOSE WE'RE STARTING TO SEE JUST LITTLE ADDITIONS HERE AND THERE.
AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL SEND AN UPDATED LIST AS WE TALK TO EMTERRA OF THINGS THAT A FULL RECYCLE LIST THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE, CAN BE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT YOUR COMMUNITY JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S RECYCLING EVERYTHING THAT THEY, THAT THEY CAN. SO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SOME EXCITING NEWS.
WE THINK IT WILL BE EXCITING FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
THERE'S RIGHT SIZE YOUR TRASH SERVICE. WE OUR GENERAL SERVICE IS THE 96 GALLON CART, WHICH IS ON THE FAR LEFT, AND THAT'S A SEVEN BAG. THREE EXTRAS ON THE SIDE SERVICE IN THE MIDDLE IS A 65 GALLON CART, WHICH IS FIVE BAGS. AND THEN THE NEW SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE IS CALLED THE MINI CART.
THIS IS A THREE BAG SERVICE CART THAT IS SMALLER.
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AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS I KNOW IN THIS COMMUNITY BAG TAGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? SO WE'VE HEARD YOU AND WE'VE SAID OVER THE YEARS THAT WE WILL NOT TAKE BAG TAGS AWAY FROM THOSE THAT HAVE IT.SO HERE'S THIS OPTION. NOW I'LL GET INTO THIS A LITTLE DEEPER WITH THAT OPTION.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN PUT YOUR SINGLE STREAM CORRUGATED CARDBOARD, PLASTICS, MIXED PAPER, METAL CANS, FOIL, CARDBOARD AND GLASS. SO WE ARE NOT TAKING AWAY THE BAG TAG, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
SO I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, BUT.
THAT'S MY ISSUE. I KNOW. SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT MINI CART DOES.
IT IS IT'S PERFECT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOW HOUSEHOLD WASTE.
MAYBE YOU WANT SOME MORE SPACE IN THEIR GARAGE OR WHATNOT, BUT SMALLER, SMALLER CART, CLEANER CURB.
AND THEN YOU GET THE ADDITION OF THE FREE RECYCLING.
SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WE HAVE GIVEN YOU KIND OF THE REPORT THAT GIVES YOU THE DATA.
AND THEN WE'VE GIVEN YOU THIS AS WELL, WHICH WE'VE GIVEN EXTRAS OUT TO OR, AND WE CAN ALSO GET YOU A PDF BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR FOLKS ARE AWARE THAT THEY DO HAVE THIS OPTION FOR THE NO ADDITIONAL COST RECYCLING TO SEE MAYBE IF THAT PERCENTAGE WILL GROW NEXT YEAR OR WHATNOT.
BUT MAYBE THERE'S PEOPLE WHO'VE MOVED INTO THE TOWNSHIP THAT DON'T HAVE THE, THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THAT SERVICE IS AVAILABLE. WE ARE HAPPY TO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, GET OUT OF HERE AND, AND LEAVE YOU AT B, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS TOO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR FOLKS FROM GRANGER? YES. YEAH. I OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO YOU DO ANY OUTREACH TO NEW NEIGHBORHOODS AS THEY AS THEY COME ONLINE? I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE ADVERTISE THAT MANY.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, IT'S FROM A COMMUNITY RELATIONS STANDPOINT, SOMETIMES THERE'S DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DO PROVIDE EDUCATION TO ON HOW TO RECYCLE CORRECTLY. OR SOMETIMES AN HOA GROUP WILL REACH OUT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PRESENT TO THEM AS WELL.
BUT A GENERAL NEW REGULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT ALL THE TIME, NO, BUT THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION AND SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT HOW WE CAN WE CAN POSSIBLY DO THAT, SO SURE. IT SHOWS OUR VALUES AS A TOWNSHIP, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT RECYCLING, SO. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. SURE.
OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BOARD MEMBERS? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN AND DOING THIS.
WE APPRECIATE IT. WE WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT YEAR.
YOU WILL. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 5.
[5. CITIZENS ADDRESS AGENDA ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS ]
CITIZENS ADDRESS AGENDA ITEMS AND NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THERE'S SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT TONIGHT'S MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO ADDRESS OUR AGENDA, OR ANY ITEM NOT ON OUR AGENDA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO NOW, AS WELL AS AT THE END OF THE MEETING.THOSE WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD MUST COMPLETE A GREETING CARD, WHICH YOU CAN FIND ON THE TABLE NEAR THE DOOR AND PRESENT THE CARD TO THE BOARD OR A MEMBER OF THE TOWNSHIP STAFF. WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN, I'LL CALL YOU UP TO THE SPEAKER. I'LL CALL UP THE NEXT SPEAKER TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK THE TOPICS INDICATED. WELL, IT'S NOT REQUIRED. IT'S HELPFUL FOR THE SAKE OF OUR MINUTES. IF YOU PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR REMARKS SAYING THAT WE'RE LIGHT ON PUBLIC COMMENT, GO AHEAD AND PASS ON THE REST OF THE SCRIPT.
I THINK YOU TWO WILL KNOW ALL THE ALL THE RULES.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPEN AT 6:18.
ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED AT 6:18.
[6. TOWNSHIP MANAGER REPORT ]
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM SIX, THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER REPORT.MANAGER DEMPSEY. YES. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR, AND GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.
A FEW THINGS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST IS A REMINDER THAT NEXT TUESDAY, SO A WEEK FROM TONIGHT, WE HAVE THE NEXT BOARD LISTENING SESSION. IT'S AT THE PAVILION ACROSS FROM TOWN HALL HERE AT 6 P.M..
SO WE ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO ATTEND AND JOIN US FOR THAT.
SO WE WILL BRING THAT IN-HOUSE HERE TO THE TOWN HALL ROOM AS A PLAN B BACKUP.
IN TERMS OF TOPICS, WE'LL CERTAINLY, STAFF WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW FACTUAL OVERVIEW OF, ASSUMING THAT THE BOARD TAKES ACTION TONIGHT ON PLACING THE PARK MILLAGE AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY MILLAGE ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER, WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT.
WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE UPDATE ON THE ELECTION IF THE CLERK WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
AS WELL AS UPDATES ON THE LOCAL ROAD PROGRAM.
AND THEN ALSO THAT PARKS MASTER PLAN TO, BRIEF UPDATES ON THAT.
BUT CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO COME OUT.
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FOR THOSE THAT CANNOT, THERE IS A FORUM ONLINE THAT PEOPLE CAN FILL OUT AND PROVIDE QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.THE NEXT ONE IS ACTUALLY THURSDAY, JULY 30TH, SO A WEEK FROM THIS THURSDAY AT HARRIS NATURE CENTER.
THERE'S ALSO STILL THE ONGOING SURVEY THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
AND THEN OF COURSE THIS WEEKEND IS THE BIG EVENT CELEBRATING MERIDIAN.
SO THAT WILL START FRIDAY NIGHT WITH TEAM NIGHT FROM 6 P.M.
TO 10 P.M. AND THEN THAT'S AT MARKETPLACE ON THE GREEN.
OF COURSE, AS IS A LOT OF THE EVENTS HAPPENING ON SATURDAY FROM 4 P.M.
TO 11 P.M.. BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE EVENTS HERE NEAR TOWN HALL AS WELL AS ALONG CENTRAL PARK DRIVE WITH ALL OF THE FOOD VENDORS, CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES, AND JUST A HOST OF THINGS.
ALL THAT INFORMATION IS ONLINE SO ALL THE DETAILS OF WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE OCCURRING, WHEN AND WHERE ARE AVAILABLE ON THE TOWNSHIP'S WEBSITE, BUT WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND HAVE A GREAT TIME WITH US.
BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF MANAGER DEMPSEY? IS, IF POSSIBLE, COULD WE HAVE A SIGN, PERHAPS AT THE FARMER'S MARKET, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE CONFUSED ABOUT THE LOCATION WHEN THEY HEARD PAVILION LAST YEAR FOR THE LISTENING SESSION.
MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE AT LEAST SOMETHING THERE TO SAY, HEY, GO.
YEAH, GO. ONE MORE PARKING LOT. COME THIS WAY AND NOT THE MARKETPLACE ON THE GREEN, RIGHT? NOT THE FARMER'S MARKET. YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT.
PUT IT UP ON THE SIGN. ELECTRONIC SIGN. YES. THIS IS REALLY GOOD.
YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLERK DEMAS.
WELL, THE AIR QUALITY BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR US TO MEET OUTSIDE NEXT WEEK.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT THE FORECAST IS TOO FAR OUT.
SO, IF IT DOESN'T. MAKE THAT CALL ON MONDAY. OKAY, SO BUT WE'RE STILL PLANNING TO MEET OUTSIDE AND IF NOT, WE WILL NOTICE. YEAH. IF NOT, WE'LL BE INSIDE HERE.
YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 7.
[7. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS OF ACTIVITIES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS ]
BOARD MEMBERS REPORTS OF ACTIVITIES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY BOARD MEMBERS WITH ACTIVITIES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS. CLERK DEMAS. WELL, YES, I HAVE A LOT OF ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT OUR UPCOMING PRIMARY ELECTIONS.SO THAT WILL STILL TAKE PLACE IN THE TOWN HALL ROOM.
AND THEN FROM JULY 26TH THROUGH AUGUST 2ND, EARLY VOTING WILL GO BACK TO 9 A.M.
TO 5 P.M., STILL IN THE TOWN HALL ROOM. AND OF COURSE, AUGUST 4TH IS OUR PRIMARY ELECTION.
THAT'S WHEN DROP BOXES CLOSE. AND AN ADDITIONAL UPDATE, I DON'T TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION COMMISSION TOO MUCH, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THAT WE MET LAST MONDAY.
AND WE APPOINTED OUR ELECTION INSPECTORS, MADE SURE THAT THE COUNTY PARTIES WERE MADE AWARE AND OUR PUBLIC ACCURACY TESTS OCCURRED LAST FRIDAY AND EVERYTHING WENT WELL. TERRIFIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE OLMSTED PLANT WAS AWARDED THE F.H. PASCHEN CIVIL ENGINEERING AWARD OF THE YEAR FOR THE NEW $2 MILLION OR, EXCUSE ME, 2 MILLION GALLON CONCRETE RESERVOIR, WHICH ENSURES CONSISTENCY AND RELIABILITY ACROSS OUR NETWORK.
THAT'S A NATIONAL AWARD. SO I THINK THAT THAT IS NOTABLE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT, AT LEAST TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IS STILL THE ONLY WATER TREATMENT FACILITY IN MICHIGAN TO GO FROM GROUNDWATER TO OR, EXCUSE ME, SURFACE WATER TO GROUNDWATER CONCEPT CLASSIFICATION BECAUSE OF THOSE STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE,
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WHICH REDUCE TESTING NECESSITY AND THEREFORE DOLLARS AND, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THAT TESTING.AND ON THE SUBJECT THAT EXCUSE ME, TRUSTEE SUNDLAND ON OUR PENSION LIABILITIES, WHEN IT COMES TO ELMSFORD, THEY ARE SETTING THE STANDARD. OVER 100% FUNDING FOR THEIR RHVP FUND AND AT 99.9% FUNDING FOR THEIR PENSION LIABILITY. SO THAT WILL RESULT IN BOTH MERIDIAN AND EAST LANSING SEEING A SLIGHTLY LOWER FEE COMING TO ELMSFORD TO MAKE UP FOR THAT, WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A LACK OF 100% FUNDING.
SO GREAT NEWS ON THAT FRONT. YOU KNOW, WHEN CITIZENS DO ASK US ABOUT WATER RATES AND WATER QUALITY, BEING ABLE TO POINT TO ELMSFORD BEING THE SECOND PLACE FINISHER YEAR IN, YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT OF WATER TASTE, AS WELL AS THESE AWARDS AND THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION BEHIND IT.
I THINK IT'S A, YOU KNOW, TRULY ONE OF THE GEMS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO HAPPY TO REPORT. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TRUSTEE TREZISE. YEAH, I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THAT MEETING AND LEARNED A LOT.
THE OTHER THING WAS WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT SECOND PLACE ON WATER TASTE, WE LOST TO MARQUETTE.
AS THE MANAGER THERE SAID, IT'S HARD TO COMPETE WITH LAKE SUPERIOR.
SO IT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE. AND HE GAVE US A VERY PLEASANT AND INFORMATIVE TOUR OF THE FACILITY AFTERWARDS THAT MADE IT VERY ENJOYABLE AFTERNOON. IS THAT CONSUMPTION PER CAPITA MORE THAN EAST LANSING, OR IS THAT TOTAL? TOTAL. OH, WELL, THERE'S MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM.
NOT THAT MANY. NOW, WHEN YOU THROW IN THE UNIVERSITY.
BUT THEY'RE GONE DURING THE SUMMERTIME, SO YEAH.
BUT THE WATER TOO. WHEN THEY SAY THE UNIVERSITY IS GREEN AND WHITE, THEY KEEP, THEY KEEP IT NICE.
AND IRRIGATION'S A FACTOR TOO, RIGHT. ANY OTHER REPORTS? TRUSTEE SUNDLAND. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I ATTENDED THAT MEETING SEVERAL YEARS AGO JUST TO GET A SURFACE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY WERE, AND IT WAS JUST SO FASCINATING.
IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY SHOULD ATTEND AT LEAST ONCE.
YEAH. I'LL PROBABLY ATTEND IT AGAIN SOON. AND THEN NEXT YEAR, MAYBE.
I'LL SEND YOU THE INFO. ALL RIGHT, SEEING NO OTHER REPORTS, MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 8.
[8. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA THIS EVENING? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.TRUSTEE TREZISE. SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE. WILSON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[9. CONSENT AGENDA]
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING, INCLUDING COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE TOWNSHIP BOARD, TWO SETS OF MINUTES, A REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 7TH MEETING, AS WELL AS THE CLOSED SESSION MINUTES FROM THAT WHICH YOU CAN FIND IN FRONT OF YOU AT YOUR PLACES.THANK YOU TO TREASURER BURGHARDT FOR PROVIDING THAT.
ANY MOTIONS TO BE MADE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING? SO MOVED. MOVED BY TREASURER BURGHARDT. SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE LENTZ.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE.
CLERK DEMAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CLERK DEMAS YES.
TREASURER BURGHARDT? YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ? YES.
TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? YES. TRUSTEE TREZISE? YES. TRUSTEE WILSON? YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? YES. MOTION CARRIES 7-0.
OKAY, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PARK AND PUBLIC SAFETY MILLAGE RENEWALS.
[10.A. Ballot Proposals – Park & Public Safety Millages]
AND WE HAVE MANAGER DEMPSEY TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. YES.GOOD EVENING AGAIN. SO AS YOU KNOW I WASN'T WITH YOU FOR YOUR LAST MEETING.
THE PARKS ONE HAVING EXPIRED LAST YEAR. AND THEN THIS IS THE FINAL YEAR FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY MILLAGE, THE 2017 PUBLIC SAFETY MILLAGE. AT THAT TIME, THE BOARD PROVIDED DIRECTION TO STAFF TO COME BACK WITH FINAL RESOLUTIONS THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE PLACING BOTH RENEWALS ONTO THE BALLOT FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION COMING UP IN NOVEMBER.
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SO WE'VE PROVIDED RESOLUTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT WORKING WITH OUR ATTORNEYS.AND THEN WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS, ONE FOR EACH OF THEM IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO PROCEED WITH THAT.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THOSE RESOLUTIONS OR THE BALLOT PROPOSALS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOARD MEMBERS OR CLERK DEMAS.
OH YEAH, IN THE MEMO. MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT IN THE, ANYWHERE IN THE RESOLUTION, I SUPPOSE.
I'M GOING TO VERIFY THAT INFORMATION, BUT I JUST NOTICED THAT.
LOOKS LIKE NOVEMBER 3RD THERE. NOVEMBER 3RD THERE.
WELL GOOD NEWS. IT LOOKS LIKE THE ATTORNEYS GOT IT RIGHT IN ALL THE PLACES THAT MATTER. 3RD THERE.
3RD THERE. MY CURSORY GLANCE SAYS THAT WE'RE OKAY.
JUST THE MEMO. WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOVEMBER 3RD.
I WILL YIELD MY TIME THEN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE, I SHOULD SAY.
TRUSTEE TREZISE. YEAH. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAD A VERY DETAILED AND INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION FROM THE POLICE AND FIRE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS THE PARK. AND I HOPE THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE AND A LINK ON TO UNDERSTAND WHY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE MILLAGES FOR THE PROGRAMS WE OFFER TO THE PUBLIC.
YEAH, I AGREE, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THESE ARE RENEWALS ALSO OF EXISTING MILLAGES.
SO APPROVAL OF THESE WOULD NOT CHANGE THE MILLAGE RATE.
WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, A SMALL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE USE OF HEADLEE OVERRIDES, WHICH THESE DO NOT. SO THIS DOES NOT INCREASE THE MILLAGE RATE IN ANY FASHION.
BASED ON WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING THE, YOU KNOW, THESE DO FUND CRITICAL SERVICES IN OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF OUR TOWNSHIP PARKS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS CARE VERY DEEPLY ABOUT.
AND CONSIDERING THAT THESE ARE SIMPLY RENEWALS THIS WOULD BE AN EASY YES FOR ME.
OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE WILSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? CLERK DEMAS. SECONDED BY CLERK DEMAS. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? SEEING NONE WILL CLERK DEMAS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. TREASURER BURGHARDT? YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ? YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? YES.
TRUSTEE TREZISE? YES. TRUSTEE WILSON? YES. CLERK DEMAS? YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? YES. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND TRUSTEE WILSON. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION MILLAGE PROPOSAL SUPPORT AND MOVED BY TRUSTEE WILSON SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE TREZISE.
ANY FINAL DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AT HAND? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLERK DEMAS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
TRUSTEE LENTZ? YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? YES. TRUSTEE TREZISE? YES. TRUSTEE WILSON? YES. CLERK DEMAS? YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT? YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? YES. MOTION CARRIES 7-0.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MANAGER DEMPSEY.
AND OUR CHIEF OF POLICE, OUR FIRE CHIEF, AND OUR PARKS DIRECTOR FOR THEIR WORK TO, YOU KNOW, GET THESE TOGETHER AND FOR THE PRESENTATION AND MR. MILLER AS WELL, FOR BEING HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO OFFER THAT PRESENTATION ALONGSIDE THEM.
I BELIEVE THAT PRESENTATION IS OR WILL SOON BE UP ON THE UP ON THE WEBSITE THERE.
[10.B. 2nd Quarter Budget Amendments]
AND WE HAVE DIRECTOR BERNADETTE BLONDIE HERE TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR AND BOARD MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED SECOND QUARTER BUDGET AMENDMENTS ARE DETAILED IN YOUR PACKET.WE ALSO INCLUDED EXPENDITURES RELATED TO OUR GREEN GRANTS.
THOSE WERE AWARDED IN 25, BUT ARE BEING DISPERSED IN 26.
ALONG WITH THE GRANT AND BERGER RELIEF DRAIN ASSESSMENT COSTS.
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THOSE WEREN'T KNOWN DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.SO WE'RE ADDING THOSE NOW. SO OVERALL THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD RESULT IN A NET INCREASE TO FUND BALANCE AND BRING OUR OVERALL PROJECTED USE OF FUND BALANCE TO 313,000 COMPARED TO OUR ORIGINAL BUDGETED USE OF FUND BALANCE OF 331,000.
I HAVE I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOARD MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS THIS EVENING? TRUSTEE TREZISE. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE DESCRIPTION.
IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND VERY EASY TO FOLLOW.
AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS TRUE WITH BUDGET PRESENTATIONS.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHER DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT IS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS ONE QUARTER WHERE THINGS COME UP SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER QUARTER.
I'M HAPPY. I'M HAPPY TOO. I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO TO ARRIVE AT THAT QUARTER.
YOU KNOW, $80,000 BETTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED IS CERTAINLY BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK THIS IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND.
IT IS, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE WHAT WE ARE SPENDING THE MONEY ON.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT WE ARE COMING IN BETTER THAN WE BUDGETED.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAD A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE BUDGET TO BEGIN WITH.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT SHOWS YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET DOCUMENT IS OUR BEST EFFORT TO BE, YOU KNOW, GOOD FINANCIAL STEWARDS. I THINK THIS SHOWS THE STAFF IS ADHERING TO THOSE SAME PRINCIPLES.
THANK YOU. AND I'M WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING.
IT'S ONE OF OUR LONG TREASURER BURGHARDT. I'M SUPPOSED TO READ THIS? YES, PLEASE. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SECOND QUARTER 2026 BUDGET AMENDMENTS WITH AN INCREASE IN BUDGETED FUND BALANCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $79,270, WHICH PROJECTS A DECREASE IN YEAR END FUND BALANCE OF $313,984. BASED ON THE 2025 RESULTS, THE PROJECTED FUND BALANCE AT DECEMBER 31ST, 2026 WILL BE $16,054,093. MOVED BY TREASURER BURGHARDT, SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE WILSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING NONE. WILL CLERK DEMAS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? YES. TRUSTEE TREZISE? YES. TRUSTEE WILSON? YES. CLERK DEMAS? YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT? YES.
TRUSTEE LENTZ? YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? YES.
MOTION CARRIES 7-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT UP IS ITEM 10.C.
[10.C. Land Preservation Acquisition – Hamilton Road ]
THE LAND PRESERVATION ACQUISITION FOR THE HAMILTON ROAD PARCEL.AND WE HAVE MISS CAMPBELL HERE TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. HI, GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR AND TRUSTEES AND MANAGER DEMPSEY. I WAS HERE IN LAST JUNE TO PRESENT A RECOMMENDED PARCEL FROM THE LAND PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD INTO OUR LAND PRESERVE PROGRAM.
SO JUST A LITTLE RECAP. THIS IS A 1.94-ACRE SITE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO 4.2 ACRES OF CURRENTLY TOWNSHIP LAND KNOWN AS VANDENBERG WOODS PRESERVE.
ABOUT 90% OF THAT PARCEL IS IN THE FLOOD HAZARD AREA, SO 75% OF IT IS WETLANDS.
IT IS BEING LISTED OR WE APPRAISED IT OUT AS 87,000.
AND PER OUR PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH OUR BOARD, OUR BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2000 TO ACQUIRE PRESERVES AND TO ACQUIRE LAND FOR THE PRESERVATION PROGRAM. AND PER OUR PROCESS, WE, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY ADHERE TO THE APPRAISAL.
WE'D NEVER LIKE TO GO OVER THE APPRAISAL PRICE.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE NEGOTIATING AT, AND WE ARE HERE TONIGHT WITH A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR RECAP ANYTHING.
I KNOW THAT WAS A VERY BRIEF SUMMARY FOR YOU.
SO WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMING AND CHATTING WITH US ABOUT IT THIS EVENING.
BOARD MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? CLERK DEMAS.
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I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ANSWERED AND HELPED ME UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.I KNOW I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, BUT I FEEL LIKE I'VE MADE UP FOR IT BY BEING A PART OF A LAND PRESERVATION, SO. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS PARCEL. OUR BOARD IS NOTHING BUT THOROUGH WITH THESE PARCELS FOR SURE.
THANK YOU. TRUSTEE TREZISE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR PROCESS AND THE REASON YOU FOCUS IN ON THE ASSESSED VALUE, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY FOR TWO ACRES, 75% OF WHICH IS NOT BUILDABLE, BUT.
IT STILL IS DEVELOPABLE, AND ALSO DIRECTOR SCHMITT CONFIRMED THAT AS WELL.
SO THERE'S 0.48 ACRES THAT IS USABLE ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO, BUT I WILL, I WILL DEFER TO THE EXPERTISE OF THE PRESERVATION BOARD.
AND SO I WILL SUPPORT THAT. YEAH. AND WE DEFINITELY AREN'T APPRAISERS OR REALTORS EITHER.
OUR ASSESSMENT THAT WE MAKE IS ECOLOGICAL AND REALLY OUR BIGGEST THING WITH THIS PRESERVE OR THIS PARCEL IS THAT IT IS STORMWATER MITIGATION SITE. IT HAS POTENTIALLY VERNAL POOLS ON IT.
SO OF COURSE WE ARE NOT ASSESSING, YOU KNOW, DOLLAR VALUE AS EXPERTS, BUT DEFINITELY AS ECOLOGISTS.
YES, ABSOLUTELY. ESPECIALLY NEIGHBORING ONE OF OUR OTHER PRESERVES.
YES. SO OKAY. YEAH, AND ABSOLUTELY. AND I MEAN, NEGOTIATION IS PART OF OUR PROCESS.
SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD FEELS IS NECESSARY, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.
TRUSTEE LENTZ. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MISS CAMPBELL.
I APPRECIATE THE THOROUGHNESS OF THE CONVERSATION AT OUR LAST MEETING.
AND I CAN SAY AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN OUT WITH THE LAND PRESERVATION VOLUNTEERS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ECOLOGISTS POINT TO AS A, YOU KNOW, GOOD USE OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE IS TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND WHAT WE DO ALREADY HAVE RATHER THAN KIND OF MINDLESSLY ACQUIRING BITS AND PIECES AROUND THE TOWNSHIP BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE THOROUGH APPROACH TO A PIECE OF LAND THAT'S ALREADY ATTACHED TO ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY A PART OF THE SYSTEM.
SO I AM ENCOURAGED BY THAT. AND THEN THERE WAS APOLOGIES.
THERE'S ONE QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU. OH, I REMEMBER.
CAN YOU REITERATE TO THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HOW MUCH THE LAND PRESERVATION MILLAGE BRINGS IN TOWARDS ACQUISITIONS LIKE THIS. I CAN'T IMAGINE 87,000 IS GOING TO PUT US INTO A BIND FINANCIALLY, SO. YEAH, AND AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME.
I'M SO SORRY. I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT OUR CURRENT ACCOUNT IS THAT 4.9, 4.7.
YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY IN THAT RANGE. IT'S ALL OVER.
YEAH. AND SO WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE WORK OFF OF THE MILEAGE.
I THINK IT'S A MILEAGE INTEREST FOR OUR MANAGEMENT.
AND SO THAT'S, WE HAVE SEPARATE FUNDS FOR THOSE THINGS.
SO OUR MANAGEMENT AND WHAT WE PAY STAFF COMES OUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENTLY, BUT WE DO HAVE A FUND OF ABOUT 4.7, 4.9 MILLION THAT WE ARE ABLE TO USE FOR ACQUISITIONS.
YEAH, I THINK OF IT AS A GREAT ASSET AND I'M PLANNING ON SUPPORTING THIS MEASURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? CLERK DEMAS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY.
LOCATED ON HAMILTON ROAD. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CLERK DEMAS, SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE SUNDLAND.
ANY FINAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. CLERK DEMAS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
TRUSTEE TREZISE? YES. TRUSTEE WILSON? YES. CLERK DEMAS?
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YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT? YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ? YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? YES. MOTION CARRIES 7-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HAVE A LOVELY EVENING.
THANK YOU, YOU TOO. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 10.D.
[10.D. Zoning Amendment #2026-05 – Backyard Chicken and Rabbits Update – ADOPTION]
ZONING AMENDMENT 2026-05. CHICKENS AND RABBITS.DIRECTOR SCHMITT. HELLO AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. SUPERVISOR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. AT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION AT THE LAST MEETING AFTER WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE REQUEST. THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL WAS RECONSIDERED, AND THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO REINTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE THE RN ZONING DISTRICT AND THE POTENTIAL DISTRICTS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE BACKYARD CHICKENS OR RABBITS.
AND IT IS A SORT OF A MIXED DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S SOME OF THE OLDEST HOUSING IN THE TOWNSHIP.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF OFFICE, THERE'S MULTIFAMILY, THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY, THERE'S A SAILING CLUB.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON IN THIS DISTRICT. AND THIS DISTRICT IS NOT A STRAIGHT SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHY IT WASN'T PICKED UP BEFORE. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES ARE SINGLE FAMILY IN THERE. AND SO STAFF DID RECEIVE A REQUEST IN THAT DISTRICT.
AND THE BOARD THEN SUBSEQUENTLY OPTED TO RECONSIDER THE MOTION TO ALLOW THE ARE TO BE INCLUDED.
SO WE DID PUBLISH IT AS REQUESTED. WE ARE IN FRONT OF THE SEATING FOR FINAL ADOPTION TO SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE THE RB, RX AND RN DISTRICTS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE BACKYARD CHICKENS OR RABBITS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS THE 17TH TIME WE HEARD THIS ONE.
HOWEVER, WE ARE EXCITED TO DISPOSE THIS AND GET THIS ONE PUT TO BED.
I THINK SO THAT THE CHICKENS CAN WAKE US UP FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
YOU CAN COME HOME TO ROOST. THAT'S RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? TRUSTEE LENTZ HALFWAY. MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE ALONG.
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE TEXT AMENDMENT 2026-05 TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN AT SECTION 86-368. TO UPDATE THE STANDARDS FOR THE KEEPING OF BACKYARD CHICKENS AND RABBITS IN THE TOWNSHIP.
ADDING THE RB, RX, AND RN DISTRICTS AS LOCATIONS WHERE BACKYARD CHICKENS OR RABBITS CAN BE KEPT.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE LENTZ, SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE SUNDLAND.
ANY FINAL DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? CLERK DEMAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
TRUSTEE WILSON? YES. CLERK DEMAS? YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT? YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ? YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? YES.
TRUSTEE TREZISE? YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? YES. MOTION CARRIES 7-0. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT SHOULD DO IT FOR CHICKENS AND RABBITS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE NOT LEAVING BECAUSE I SEE YOU'RE HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE TOO.
OKAY, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 11.A, OR ORDINANCE 2026-08.
[Items 11.A. & 11.B.]
COPPER CREEK EAST REZONE FROM R2, RA WITH PRD OVERLAY.WHEN THE ORIGINAL COPPER CREEK WAS DONE, THEY WENT UNDER A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORDINANCE.
THAT AT, THE WAY THE PUD IS SET UP YOU DO THE REZONING FIRST AND THEN YOU DO THE SKETCH PLAN.
THEY'RE COMING IN UNDER THE PRD, WHICH IS THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, VERY SIMILAR, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. THE BIG DIFFERENCE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IN READING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE IS THERE IS AN EXPLICIT STATEMENT OF APPROVEMENT APPROVAL OF THE SKETCH PLAN AT THE SAME TIME AS THE REZONING ESSENTIALLY.
AND SO WE ARE SPLITTING THEM INTO TWO MOTIONS JUST FOR PURPOSES OF RECORD AS WE GO FORWARD.
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THEY DID COPPER CREEK THE FIRST TIME THE UNDERLYING ZONING WAS ALREADY IN PLACE.
AND SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY CAME IN WITH THE PUD REQUEST WITH THE SKETCH PLAN.
IN THIS CASE, THEY'VE ALREADY HAD. THEY HAD TO PREVIOUSLY, YOU MAY RECALL, REZONE THIS TO THE RA, WHICH IS THE UNDERLYING ZONING THAT ALLOWS THEM TO THEN GET ACCESS TO THE PUD OR THE PRD IN THIS CASE.
AND SO THEY'VE DONE IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF PROCESS THIS TIME, WHICH AGAIN, ALL THE MORE REASON FOR US TO ESSENTIALLY TREAT THESE AS TWO MOTIONS WHEN THEY COME OUT. AND FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE THE REZONING IS A LEGISLATIVE ACT, WHEREAS THE SKETCH PLAN IS MORE OF A DISCRETIONARY ACT.
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SO IN THEORY, IF ANYTHING EVER GOT HAYWIRE, THEY WOULD BE APPEALED DIFFERENTLY.SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THEM DOWN AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. BUT FUNCTIONALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT WE ARE TAKING THE EXISTING RA ZONING, WHICH THE BOARD PUT IN PLACE AFTER THE 2003 FUTURE LAND USE MAP UPDATE TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE REMAINDER OF COPPER CREEK. AND THEY ARE NOW OVERLAYING THAT WITH THE PRD DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE REZONING PIECE. AS PART OF THE PRD, THERE'S A SKETCH PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING.
AND SO THE COPPER CREEK PHASE ONE IS IN THE BLUE HERE.
AND SO THE SKETCH PLAN. DOWN TO THAT REAL QUICK SHOT RIGHT PAST IT.
IS THIS, THIS IS SORT OF THE FIRST HALF OF THE PROJECT VERY LITTLE WETLAND IN THIS AREA.
FUNCTIONALLY, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THE FIRST PHASE IS ONLY THIS SMALL AREA RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT THIS STUB ALREADY EXISTS COMING OUT OF THE EXISTING COPPER CREEK GOES NORTH SOUTH.
THIS IS A LONG PROJECT. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY EXPECT THIS TO GO AS QUICKLY AS THE FIRST TWO PHASES, SPECIFICALLY OF THE ORIGINAL COPPER CREEK WENT.
THE FIRST TWO PHASES WENT VERY QUICKLY, AND THEN THREE AND FOUR ARE ALMOST DONE, NOW.
THIS WILL GO ON A MORE GRADUAL PACE GOING FORWARD.
BUT FORTUNATELY THIS PLAN MEETS THE UNDERLYING ZONING.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE BY AND LARGE OF REDUCTIONS THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE PRD.
BECAUSE THEY'RE FUNCTIONALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE, IT'S GOING TO BE SEAMLESS WHEN YOU DRIVE, IF YOU DRIVE FROM SORT OF HERE OVER TO HERE, SAME SIZE LOTS, SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, TREES MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'VE RUN INTO A COUPLE UTILITY CONFLICTS OF WHERE SOME OF THE STREET TREES WERE BEING PUT IN PHASE ONE THAT WE HAD TO WORK OUT.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THOSE LESSONS TO HEART AND MOVE THOSE A LITTLE BIT, STILL BE IN THE FRONT YARD STILL RIGHT OFF THE STREET, BUT JUST SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE EVERY SINGLE ONE ON EVERY LOT THAT WE DEAL WITH GOING FORWARD.
SO PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS HAD NO MAJOR CONCERNS.
AND SO THIS SORT OF NOW TAKES A TWO-STEP PROCESS BECAUSE THE PRD IS CONSIDERED A REZONING.
THE NEXT STEP FOR THAT WILL BE INTRODUCTION. THE SKETCH PLAN WILL JUST KIND OF WAIT NOW UNTIL THE REZONING HAS BEEN, THE PRD REZONING HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AND IS. BACK THEN THE SITE PLAN WILL COME BACK AND THERE'LL BE TWO MOTIONS ULTIMATELY FOR ADOPTION IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO MOVE THAT DIRECTION. ONE TO ADOPT THE REZONING, ONE TO APPROVE THE SKETCH PLAN.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE.
I SEE A COUPLE HANDS. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND. HI. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND EVERYTHING.
AND I'M DRAWING UP A LITTLE BIT OF PAST MATERIAL IN THE PAST, BUT I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE PLAN. OKAY, SO THERE WAS CREEKWOOD LANE THAT WENT RIGHT UP AND DOWN.
IT WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT BEFORE THE COPPER CREEK.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ALL THIS DRAWS INTO IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COPPER CREEK WOOD LANE STILL HAS THAT CEMENT A, YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH COPPER CREEK AND GET OUT CREEKWOOD LANE.
YEAH. SO IT WAS A BIG ISSUE WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE TRAFFIC WOULD JUST GRAVITATE TOWARD GOING OUT ON CREEKWOOD LANE INSTEAD OF THE OTHER APPROPRIATE ENTRANCES TO THE SUBDIVISION.
ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS STILL IN PLACE.
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AMAZON DELIVERY TRUCKS STILL TRY TO GET THROUGH THERE.STILL GET THE OCCASIONAL CALL. BECAUSE THEY AREN'T LIKE CONCRETE BOLLARDS.
THAT'S NOT THE, THE TYPE OF BOLLARD THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE BREAKAWAYS.
AND SO OCCASIONALLY YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET SOMEBODY BACK THERE, BUT BY AND LARGE IT'S HAD THE EFFECT IT'S INTENDED IT INTENDED TO HAVE OF NOT ALLOWING TRAFFIC THROUGH BETWEEN THE SUBDIVISIONS. AND THAT'S GOING TO STILL BE IN PLACE.
YEAH, THIS, SO THIS NEW SUBDIVISION, I CAN JUST WE DON'T HAVE NEW ENOUGH AERIAL.
OH WE DO ACTUALLY, THEY FLEW THIS STRETCH APPARENTLY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE, THE CURRENT SITUATION. YOU CAN SEE IT STUBS HERE AND HERE.
THE PROPERTY, THE EDGE OF THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION IS RIGHT HERE BACK OF THIS CURVE.
AND SO THIS IS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OVER IN THIS AREA.
AND IT'LL EVENTUALLY COME DOWN AND CONNECT INTO HASLETT ROAD RIGHT OVER HERE.
SO YEAH, IT HAS NO EFFECT ON CREEKWOOD. OKAY.
THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. TRUSTEE WILSON. I READ IN THE STAFF MEMO IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH THE VERY END OF IT, IT SAYS THE INITIAL PHASE OF COPPER CREEK WAS APPROVED UNDER A PUD, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE CURRENT PRD.
LAND WILL BE SET ASIDE AS PREFERRED, AS PRESERVED PROPERTY, WHILE GIVING THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE LOT SIZE OR INCREASE DENSITY. AND MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY INCREASING THE DENSITY? SO. I UNDERSTAND THE CUSTOMER THE CLUSTERING OF HOMES CONCEPT.
SO THE, I'M TRYING TO FLIP TO THE RIGHT PART HERE.
SO WHEREAS BEFORE, IF YOU WERE AT A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE ON AN ACRE, THAT'S ONLY TWO UNITS.
BUT IF YOU DROP IT TO 10,000 UNDER THE PRD, YOU COULD IN THEORY GET FOUR.
IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SET ASIDE THE AMOUNT OF SPACE.
FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE DOING THIS PURELY FROM A PROCEDURAL REASON.
THEY DON'T WANT TO DO A PLAT BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH PREVIOUSLY.
AND SO THEY ARE USING THE PRD THIS TIME TO GO THE SECOND ROUTE.
BUT THEY DON'T INTEND TO DEVIATE FROM THE REZONING TO RA, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEY CANNOT COME IN AND SPLIT A LOT DIFFERENTLY TO GET, SAY, AN RB ZONING, THERE'S NO INTENT TO DO THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, MA'AM. OKAY, I WAS JUST THROWN BY THAT PHRASE INCREASED DENSITY.
YEAH. IT'S JUST FROM A PRACTICAL DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU REDUCE THE LOTS AND ARE ABLE TO SET ASIDE NATURAL AREA, YOU CAN INCREASE THE DENSITY. THAT MAKES SENSE.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, THEY ARE NEITHER INCREASING OR DECREASING THE LOT SIZE NOR ARE THEY PRESERVING PROPERTY. NO, AT THIS TIME THEY'RE FUNCTIONALLY JUST USING THE UNDERLYING RA ZONING.
SO, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE FOR EFFICACY CERTAINLY.
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO IT'S REALLY JUST A FORM OF OWNERSHIP FROM OUR FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER IT'S A SITE CONDO OR PLAT. WE GENERALLY TRY NOT TO DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN THE TWO BECAUSE THE ATTORNEYS WILL GET SQUIRRELY IF WE START TO PREFER ONE OVER THE OTHER, BUT YOU KNOW, THE BIG DIFFERENCE CANDIDLY, IS IT WILL PROBABLY BE PRIVATE ROADS.
AND SO LONG TERM, THERE IS A POLICY QUESTION THERE, BUT THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE REALLY.
OKAY. SO THESE ARE AS OPPOSED TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE FOUND IN COPPER CREEK ONE THROUGH FOUR. THESE ARE JUST THE SAME BUILDINGS, BUT WITH A DIFFERENT DESIGNATION AS SITE CONDOS FOR COPPER CREEK FIVE THROUGH WHATEVER. IT'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT FORM OF OWNERSHIP.
YEP. THAT'S ALL THAT'S FUNCTIONALLY GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE. OKAY.
OKAY. SO THEY'RE NOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THEN? THEY ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THEIR HOMES, HOMES, BUT THEY'RE SITE CONDOS.
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IT STARTED IN THE 70S AND SLOWLY GREW. YOU, I, I DON'T HAVE THE LIST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I COULD POINT OUT TO YOU NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SITE CONDOS, AND YOU'D HAVE NO IDEA THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A PLAT.IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT. WE'LL LEAVE THE OKEMOS PRESERVE OFF.
HEWLETT ROAD IS A SITE. WHEREAS THE. ONE ROAD.
WHEREAS THE ONES IN THE NORTH IS NOT RIGHT AND THEY ARE.
THEY LITERALLY. YOU DRIVE BETWEEN THEM. THERE, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE REALLY.
EXACTLY. WHEN THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WHO WERE NOT PRESENT AND NOT PART OF THAT INITIAL PROCESS, WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A SITE CONDO IS, ARE TOLD ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TO REPAVE THEIR ROAD, LEST IT GO TO, YOU KNOW, RUBBLE. AND THEN THE BOARD 30 YEARS FROM NOW WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANGRY RESIDENTS WHO COME TO US TO SCREAM ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE BEING CHARGED A BUNCH OF MONEY TO REPLACE A ROAD.
AND WHY DID THAT BOARD 30 YEARS AGO ALLOW THEM TO PUT IN A PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN THERE WAS A PERFECTLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, PLANNING PROCESS THAT COULD ALLOW FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO COME IN.
AND THEN IT WOULD BE THE TOWNSHIP AS A WHOLE OBLIGATION TO REPLACE IT.
THAT MAY BE SOMEONE 30 YEARS FROM NOW PROBLEM, RIGHT? AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO KICK THE CAN ON, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WORTH CONSIDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY NOT BE THE SAME OWNERS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY MAY NOT BE AS EYES WIDE OPEN AS PERHAPS THE FIRST OWNERS WILL BE IN THESE IN THESE SITE CONDOS. CERTAINLY. TRUSTEE WILSON.
ARE WE ENCOURAGING THE USE OF PRIVATE ROADS BY SAYING USING THIS PARTICULAR.
THEY COULD BE PUBLIC ROADS. I THINK THE INTENTION IS TO DESIGN THEM IN SUCH A WAY AS THEY WILL.
THEY WOULD. QUALIFY. QUALIFY. BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DOING THE OPEN SPACE AND THE STREET TREES AND THE UTILITIES, IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET THE EXPLICIT DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE OF THE ROAD DEPARTMENT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
BUT WILL THEY BE THE EXACT SAME DESIGN ESSENTIALLY ON THE SURFACE AS THE OTHER PUBLIC STREETS? ABSOLUTELY. IF SOMEONE COMES AND SAYS THEY WANT IT TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC ROAD, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNTY ROAD DEPARTMENT. THEY WOULD VERY MUCH NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT PROCESS.
YES. AND THESE RESIDENTS, STARTING IN YEAR ONE, WILL BE PAYING FOR MAINTENANCE, PLOWING ALL OF THAT.
SO THEY WILL KNOW THAT THERE ARE CHARGES WITH REGARD TO THEIR ROADS, SO.
AS NECESSARY TO COVER. YES, ABSOLUTELY. TRUSTEE WILSON.
DO THEY HAVE TO MEET THE SAME STANDARDS FOR CURB CUTS, CURB AND GUTTER WIDTH OF THE ROAD AND SO ON? YES. SO THERE'S NO SHORTCUTS TO THAT HAVING A PRIVATE ROAD.
THERE'S NO DESIGN SHORTCUT, NO. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU.
TRUSTEE LENTZ. AM I? PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT AM I UNDER.
IS IT, AREN'T CONDOS REQUIRED TO HAVE THEIR OWN DRAINAGE DISTRICT SEPARATE THAN FROM OUTSIDE, LIKE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? OR IS THAT COMPLETELY OFF BASE? NOT NECESSARILY, NO. OKAY. OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST I REMEMBERED A CONVERSATION A WHILE AGO RELATED TO THAT WITH SOMEONE NOT HERE, SO.
MY OTHER QUESTION ON PAGE 78, THE INTRODUCTION HERE IT REFERENCES REZONING 65.38 ACRES. AND THEN ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TALK ABOUT THE LARGER LAND.
IS THAT SAYING THAT ONLY THE 65.38 WOULD BE, WOULD HAVE THIS PRD OVERLAY ON IT? AT THIS TIME YES. THAT THEY'RE INTENDING TO ONLY GET APPROVAL FOR THE, THIS SKETCH PLAN AND THIS REZONING TO PRD. THEIR INTENTION IN THE FUTURE WILL BE TO COME BACK WHEN THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT WETLANDS, THEY'VE GOT A DRAIN. THEY'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON THIS PIECE. REALLY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOME LOTS IN THE, THE HOPPER HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF THINGS TO BUILD.
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AREA. AND BUT. YEAH, NO, FUNCTIONALLY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROCESS AGAIN.OKAY. AND THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE NUMBERS, SO.
BUT DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT JUST DOING THAT ONE LEG, THIS SKETCH PLAN, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE APPROVED FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE SEE ON THERE CURRENTLY.
FOR THIS 65 ISH ACRES, YES. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS RIGHT.
THIS WILL COME IN FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW ADMINISTRATIVELY.
AND THEN THEY'LL NEED MORE LOTS. AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL FIGURE OUT HOW MANY ON THE NORTH LOOP BECAUSE THEY'LL START TO LOOP IT ULTIMATELY BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ONLY GOING TO LET THEM HAVE SORT OF A ONE WAY FOR SO LONG.
RIGHT. BUT THEN WHEN THEY START GOING THIS WAY OR THIS WAY, THEY'LL HAVE TO SORT OF LAY THAT OUT.
OKAY. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS FASCINATING.
SO I GUESS WE'LL CONTINUE TO WATCH THIS AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 11.C. SENIOR CENTER QUARTERLY UPDATE.
[11.C. Senior Center Update]
MANAGER DEMPSEY IS HERE TO TALK TO US MORE ABOUT THAT. YES, THANKS AND GOOD EVENING AGAIN.SO WE ARE LAST HERE IN APRIL WITH AN UPDATE ON THE SENIOR CENTER FACILITY.
WANTED TO PROVIDE THE LATEST ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT.
SO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
IN FACT, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY SIT DOWN WITH MR. OLSEN, THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT OF OKEMOS PUBLIC SCHOOLS THIS MORNING.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED THERE.
I THINK WE WILL CERTAINLY NEED TO, AT THE MINIMUM, PUT THE SENIOR CENTER PROGRAM INTO A DIFFERENT FACILITY IN A SHORT TERM BASIS IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING WITH OKEMOS PUBLIC SCHOOLS. CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. MALLEY, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF HASLETT PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE FACILITY WHERE THE HASLETT LIBRARY IS, AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION BUILDING STILL IS A POTENTIAL FACILITY. I THINK YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE ON THEIR END IS SORT OF HOW THEY MIGHT POTENTIALLY PROPOSE REPROGRAMING SOME ACTIVITIES AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE THINGS TO AND WHAT FACILITIES THEY'RE GOING TO PROPOSE, WHERE THOSE GO, HOW THEY MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE STUDENTS AROUND.
SO AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROPOSED MILLAGE THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST YEAR, WE LOOKED AT THE, THE PROPERTY ON CENTRAL PARK DRIVE NEXT TO THE CENTRAL FIRE STATION.
YOU KNOW, THAT THE TOWNSHIP CONTROLS WHAT WE'VE STARTED TO DO SINCE THEN IS SORT OF LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT MAKE, YOU KNOW, EQUAL SENSE, OF COURSE.
SO WE LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY FOR THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY AND SENIOR CENTER FACILITY, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL PARCEL. BUT WE'VE SORT OF REVISITED THE NOTION OF POTENTIALLY DOING SOMETHING ON THE SERVICE CENTER SITE.
SO JUST UP THE ROAD ON OKEMOS ROAD. WE DID HAVE AN ANALYSIS DONE OF EXISTING PLANS FOR THE CURRENT SERVICE CENTER FACILITY. SO THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S HERE ON THE SOUTH END OF THE OVERALL FACILITY LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL TO ADD A SECOND STORY TO THAT. YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERS CAME TO A, AN ARCHITECTS CAME TO A PRETTY QUICK ASSESSMENT THAT THAT WOULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE.
THE BUILDING WAS NOT DESIGNED TO ADD A SECOND STORY TO THAT OFFICE FACILITY.
THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE LOAD BEARING CAPACITY OF THE ROOF SYSTEM OF THE WALLS.
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IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FROM A COST STANDPOINT.BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STAFF HAS STARTED TO REVISIT WAS FOR THOSE OF YOU INVOLVED IN THE, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE AND TASK FORCE THAT LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SITES THE LAND JUST TO THE WEST OF THE BUILDING WHERE WE HAVE THE PLAN TRAILHEAD FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM HERE. WE HAVE SORT OF REVISITED THAT BECAUSE THE MAJOR CONSTRAINT WITH THIS SITE, OF COURSE, WAS ITS OVERALL SIZE RELATIVE TO A COMMUNITY AND SENIOR CENTER FACILITY.
AND AGAIN, SOME SHARED PARKING THERE. SO THAT SITE, YOU KNOW, IT IS TIGHT AND IT DOES BORDER, YOU KNOW, A RAILROAD TRACK, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MULTIPLE TRAINS A DAY.
SO WE ARE SORT OF REVISITING THAT AS A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL EFFICIENT USE OF SPACE AND AGAIN, STILL BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROJECT FOR THE TRAILHEAD THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT DNR FUNDING FOR.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AT THAT.
JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THIS EVENING.
FOR SOME, YOU KNOW, PRELIMINARY THOUGHTS FEEDBACK ON THAT AS A POSSIBILITY.
YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY, WE REPORTED IN OUR MEETING PRIOR TO THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF THOSE ARE SORT OF COMING OFF THE MARKET.
AGAIN, ROUGHLY LOOKING IN THAT 9000 TO 15,000FT² RANGE, SOMETHING THAT HAS GOOD ACCESS, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ACQUIRE AND NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SIMPLY LEASE. BECAUSE AS WE'VE EXPLAINED BEFORE, THE LEASE ARRANGEMENTS TYPICALLY DON'T FIT THE ECONOMIC MODEL GIVEN LEASE RATES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, WE HAVEN'T, AGAIN, HAVE ANY NEW ONES REALLY SURFACE FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. YOU KNOW, STAFF, WE'VE ALSO STARTED TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE ON, YOU MAY OF 28 IS NOW LESS THAN TWO YEARS.
WE ARE GOING TO START TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT MIGHT WE DO IN THE SHORT TERM IF WE DO HAVE TO RELOCATE THE OPERATION ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE GET A PLAN GOING AND DESIGNS AND CONSTRUCTION.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE GO BACK TO THE VOTERS FOR A MUCH REDUCED MILLAGE REQUEST, THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE EQUATION. SO GIVEN THOSE TIMELINES, WE WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT POTENTIAL TEMPORARY LOCATIONS FOR THE OPERATION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE RAMPING THAT UP AS WELL HERE IN THE COMING MONTHS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE STAND. HAPPY TO GET ANY FEEDBACK ON THE THOUGHT HERE WITH THE GAYLORD C.
SMITH, OKEMOS ROAD SITE AS WELL AS ANY OF THE OTHER UPDATES THAT I PROVIDED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS.
WELL, I'LL SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED EFFORTS TO EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING.
IF WE CAN CERTAINLY THAT'S A MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE METHOD.
WE CAN ELIMINATE THE ACQUISITION COST. YOU KNOW, I WAS ALSO INTERESTED IN READING THE, YOUR UPDATE OF LAST WEEK ABOUT THE ACADEMIC WAY PROPERTY THAT HASLETT IS RELEASING WHICH IS SOMETHING I THINK THAT IT MAY MERIT TO LOOK AT, EVEN IF NOT FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING NOTION.
AND THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING SPOT FOR EITHER SOCCER OR BASEBALL OR EVEN PERHAPS THE CRICKET FIELD, IF THERE'S ENOUGH ACREAGE FOR IT THAT SHE'S BEEN LOOKING FOR FOR A WHILE.
THAT MIGHT BE A WORTHY PIECE OF LAND TO LOOK AT AND GIVE SOME MORE THOUGHT ABOUT.
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YEAH. YEAH. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LAST EVENING'S HASLETT PUBLIC SCHOOLS BOARD MEETING.JUST TO RECAP FOR, FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS MEETING.
SO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THE DIOCESE OF LANSING FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THAT'S A LONG ACADEMIC WAY HERE ON THE WEST SIDE.
OF COURSE, THEY HAVE ATHLETIC FIELDS HERE, MOSTLY SOCCER FIELDS THAT THEY'VE UTILIZED.
THERE WAS A SORT OF A REVERSION CLAUSE IN THAT AGREEMENT THAT THE DIOCESE IS EXECUTING.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COME TO AN ARRANGEMENT TO ACQUIRE IT PERMANENTLY.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT MAY BE PLACED ON THE MARKET BY THE DIOCESE.
SO WE'LL CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT AND LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF LAND.
IT ESSENTIALLY IS SORT OF A L SHAPE THAT RUNS, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS ALONG THE TREE LINE HERE SORT OF FOLLOWS IT SORT OF COMES SOUTH HERE JUST EAST OF THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES INCLUDES THAT POND THAT'S ON THE SITE.
AND IT CERTAINLY HAS A LOT OF VALUE FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
AS WE KNOW ACROSS THE COMMUNITY, THERE IS A SHORTAGE AT TIMES OF THOSE FIELDS.
SO THAT IS AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT I THINK WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WE LOOK AT THIS.
BUT WE'LL, WE'LL REPORT BACK AS WE LEARN MORE ON THAT.
THANK YOU. CLERK DEMAS. SO BACK TO THE SPACE NEAR THE SERVICE CENTER.
DO WE HAVE A COST ESTIMATE? IF WE WERE TO PLACE A SENIOR CENTER THERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A DETAIL WE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF SITE SPECIFIC COSTS.
FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE ANY SOIL BORINGS OR.
BUT ASIDE FROM TYPICAL INFLATION THAT WE WOULD APPLY TO IT IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, WHICH HAS BEEN A BIT HIGH, I DON'T FORESEE IT BEING DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT ON A PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S SPACE AND SOMETHING I HAVEN'T CONSIDERED.
I KNOW THAT I LIVE RIGHT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY AND THE TRAIN CAN BE QUITE NOISY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO LEARN WAYS TO REDUCE THE NOISE LEVELS.
YEAH. GREAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL SEE YOU IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 7:18 P.M..
NEXT UP IS OTHER MATTERS AND BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND OTHER MATTERS THIS EVENING. SEEING NONE,
[13. OTHER MATTERS AND BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS ]
WE DO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A CLOSED SESSION? TRUSTEE WILSON.[14. CLOSED SESSION]
MOVE TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION. YOU GOT TO READ THE THING.I'M SORRY. OH, SORRY. THE ATTORNEYS ARE GOING TO ARE GOING TO. MOTION TO ENTER CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO MCL 15.268(1)(H) TO CONSULT WITH THE TOWNSHIP ATTORNEY TO CONSIDER A CONFIDENTIAL WRITTEN LEGAL OPINION. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE WILSON. DO WE HAVE A SUPPORT? SUPPORT. SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE TREZISE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
CLERK DEMAS? YES. TREASURER BURGHARDT? YES. TRUSTEE LENTZ? YES. TRUSTEE SUNDLAND? YES. TRUSTEE TREZISE? YES.
TRUSTEE WILSON? YES. SUPERVISOR HENDRICKSON? YES.
MOTION CARRIES 7-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE ENTERING CLOSED SESSION.
IF YOU PLEASE CLEAR THE ROOM, BOARD MEMBERS WILL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE SHORTLY. OKAY, WE'LL REENTER OPEN SESSION AT 8:06 P.M..
SUPPORTED BY TRUSTEE LENTZ. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ADJOURNED AT 8:06 P.M..
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.