May 11, 2026 Planning Commission

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NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC.

THEY DO SAY THEY ARE. REALLY INTERESTING. YEAH.

YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS MOVED HERE IN YES, YES. IT'S ONE DAY. ALL RIGHT.

HELLO. SO AS I'M BOOTING EVERYTHING UP, I WILL CALL THE, WHAT IS THIS? MAY 11TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.

AND WITH THAT, I CAN MOVE TO ROLL CALL, NOTING WE HAVE AN EXCUSED ABSENCE WITH COMMISSIONER NAHUM.

SO MOVE DOWN TO COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL. PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY. I AM HERE. COMMISSIONER BROOKS.

HERE. VICE CHAIRMAN MCMCCURTIS. HERE. AND THE CHAIR IS HERE.

WITH THAT, WE HAVE PUBLIC REMARKS. DO WE HAVE ANY REMARKS FROM THE PUBLIC? YOU DO NOT. WE HAVE NONE. MOVING ON TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, WHICH WAS ATTACHED TO THE MEETING TODAY.

[4.APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

ALL IN FAVOR AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOVING ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 27TH, 2026,

[5.APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

SECOND. SECOND BY VICE CHAIRMAN MCCURTIS. AND I DO HAVE ONE MINOR ADDED ON ITEM 9, OTHER BUSINESS.

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OLD HABITS DIE HARD. I KNOW. I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY SPOT THERE.

ITEM 9, OTHER BUSINESS. OKAY. I ALSO HAD A QUESTION THAT I CAN EITHER ASK NOW OR IT'S RELATED TO THAT ITEM, BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ADDED ITEM THAT WASN'T LINKED IN OUR AGENDA OR PUT IN THE MEETING PACKET FOR THAT MEETING.

SO THERE'S NO RECORD OF THAT TRIBUTE THAT WE ADOPTED.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE SINCE LIKE.

I'M SORRY, REPEAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO ITEM 9, IT WAS THE TRIBUTE FOR COMMISSIONER SNYDER.

YEAH. BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA. WE LIKE.

IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET. IT'S NOT IN THE PACKET, AND SO THEREFORE THERE'S NO PUBLIC RECORD OF THE WORDING OF THE TRIBUTE. AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE LINKED IN THE MINUTES OR PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE AT SOME POINT.

SO WE HAVE IT FOR POSTERITY. IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND WE CAN, WE CAN, WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THAT PRACTICE GOING FORWARD.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MOTION IS TO APPEND IT TO THESE MINUTES.

COULD WE DO THAT? YEAH. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD.

OKAY. IF OTHERS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. ABSOLUTELY.

DEFINITELY. OKAY. CAN WE GET A TECHNICAL SECOND TO APPEND IT? SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL. ALL IN FAVOR AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WILL, COMMISSIONER SNYDER THANK YOU WILL BE APPENDED TO THE MINUTES.

AND THEN WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY MORE CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 27TH MEETING? HEARING NONE, WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE. I THINK WE NEED A SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND. YOU'RE RIGHT. I APOLOGIZE. YOU MADE IT.

YEAH. NO. YOU'RE GOOD. IN THAT CASE, ALL IN FAVOR FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 27TH, 2026 MEETING? AYE. OPPOSED? WITH THAT, THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 27TH MEETING ARE APPROVED.

WITH THAT ITEM 6 ON THE AGENDA IS COMMUNICATIONS.

WE HAVE NO ITEMS UNDER COMMUNICATIONS. WITH ITEM 7, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS UNDER ITEM 7. SO WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[8.A. REZ #26005 – Garza ]

IS THAT QUICK. SO YEAH. REZONING 26005 GARZA.

REZONE ONE PARCEL APPROXIMATELY AN EIGHTH OF AN ACRE AT 1745 MACK AVENUE FROM RDD MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO RB SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS NO CHANGE SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING TWO WEEKS AGO.

STAFF HAS NO FURTHER COMMENT BEYOND WHAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT AND WHAT WAS MENTIONED THAT NIGHT.

THERE IS A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL IN THE PACKET AT YOUR REQUEST.

REMINDER THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION. THAT THIS, EVERYTHING WILL GO TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.

THE TOWNSHIP BOARD WILL HAVE, WILL BE THE ULTIMATE DECIDING BODY ON WHETHER REZONING IS APPROVED.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE FROM THE COMMISSIONERS RELATED TO REZ 26005 FOR GARZA.

I'M PREPARED TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION. COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL.

I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING NUMBER 26005 TO REZONE ONE PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY 0.8 ACRES IN SIZE, LOCATED AT 1745 MACK AVENUE FROM RDD MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO RB SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FOR THE REASONS LISTED. SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROOKS. IN THIS CASE, WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? YES. VICE CHAIRMAN MCCURTIS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL? YES. COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY? YES. AND THE CHAIR VOTES YES.

OKAY. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH OR CHECK IT OUT. CHECK OUT THE AGENDA ON THE WEBSITE.

THE DRAFT AGENDA ISN'T UP YET FOR THE BOARD HAS ALREADY GOT YOU LISTED SOMEWHERE ON IT.

SO THAT IS MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY. OKAY.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS FOR COMING. THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, WE MOVE TO B UNDER 8, UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[8.B. SUP #26009 – Huntington National Bank]

OKAY.

YES, AS NOTED SUP 260092. TO CONSTRUCT A NEW BANK WITH A DRIVE-THRU AT 1938 WEST GRAND RIVER AVENUE,

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NO PUBLIC COMMENT. OTHERWISE, AND STAFF OR THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS.

OTHERWISE, THERE IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THIS.

YOU ARE THE APPROVING BODY IN THIS CASE SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED TO SITE PLAN.

JUST A MORBID CURIOSITY QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LIQUOR LICENSE AT OLD CHICAGO? IS IT JUST GET ROLLED UP? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WE'RE KIND OF TOWNSHIPS KIND OF STINGY ABOUT THOSE.

I MEAN, IF A BANK HAD ONE, THAT'D I'D HAVE TO. I MIGHT SWITCH BANKS.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

IT WAS MORE OF A CURIOSITY, THAT'S. NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IF YOU SHOOT ME AN EMAIL AND REMIND ME OF THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.

I WOULD NOT WASTE THE COUNTY'S TIME WITH MY MORBID OR THE CITY'S TIME WITH MY MORBID CURIOSITY QUESTIONS.

I'M MOVED TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. MOVED BY VICE CHAIRMAN MCCURTIS.

SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY. WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE FROM THE BOARD? I HAVE A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER BROOKS. I JUST, AM CURIOUS.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PERMITTED USE ON THE SITE, A BANK AND DRIVE-THRU.

THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S A HAS A DRIVE-THRU ATTACHED TO IT.

CORRECT. MY QUESTION IS SORT OF.

I GUESS IT'S A CURIOSITY FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

SO AS SINCE WE LAST SAW THIS ISSUE, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS SPACE A LOT.

AND AS I WAS DRIVING AROUND THE TOWNSHIP THE PAST TWO WEEKS JUST LOOKING AT BANKS AND I DON'T SEE ANY, I VERY RARELY SEE ANY CARS GO THROUGH ANY DRIVE-THRUS, VERY RARELY. AND THIS, I'M JUST CURIOUS, HAVE EVER OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS DURING THIS PERIOD? AND SUCH A PRIME LOCATION.

I GUESS I WOULD JUST COMMENT THAT IF IT'S A PRIME LOCATION, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BOUGHT UP BY SOMEONE ELSE BY NOW.

BECAUSE IT IS A PERFECT SPOT FOR ANOTHER RESTAURANT. BUT THERE JUST MUST NOT BE INTEREST OR, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ON THE RESTAURANT GUY, I WOULD ALWAYS PUSH FOR A RESTAURANT. I KNOW, AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE TOO, IF YOU'RE BALKING AT THE DRIVE-THRU, A RESTAURANT WOULD BE JUST AS LIKELY TO HAVE A DRIVE-THRU AND WE'D BE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION.

YEAH, TOTALLY, I AGREE. IT COULD BE A SONIC. COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY.

I GUESS, TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION. AND IT WAS ONE I THOUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO SAY LAST TIME I WANTED TO BE A RESTAURANT, BUT IT IS A PERMITTED USE OF THAT PROPERTY ABSENT THE DRIVE-THRU.

AND SO THE QUESTION WE'RE BEING ASKED TO TALK ABOUT IS, SHOULD THE BANK HAVE THE DRIVE-THRU? AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I SET FOOT INSIDE A BANK.

I ALWAYS GO TO THE DRIVE-THRU, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY TO GO TO THE DRIVE-THRU ATM.

AND SO FOR ME, YOU MAY NOT SEE ME THERE BECAUSE I DO A LOT OF ELECTRONIC BANKING, BUT WHEN I DO GO TO MY BANK, I APPRECIATE HAVING A DRIVE-THRU AND I'M SURE THAT THEIR BUSINESS WOULD BE HAMPERED BY NOT HAVING A DRIVE-THRU.

SO IF THIS IS THE BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO LOCATE THERE, THEN I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE TO, A DRIVE-THRU DO SO.

AND I WISH IT WERE A RESTAURANT. IF THEY WANT TO START SERVING TEA AND COFFEE AND BEER.

I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT OBJECT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS A PRIME LOCATION.

AND I'M VERY SAD THAT WE DON'T HAVE A RESTAURANT GOING IN THERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE TOWNSHIP.

BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE A BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE TOWNSHIP.

AND I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY TODAY AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.

DANDELIONS ARE GROWING, SO I'M HOPING THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND MOW THE LAWN AND KEEP IT UP BECAUSE IT'S WORTH NOT HAVING ANYTHING.

I'D ALSO COMMENT, I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS IS THE SAME HUNTINGTON THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE IN THE STRIP MALL OVER THERE OFF OF GRAND RIVER, RIGHT. BROOKFIELD PLAZA. BROOKFIELD PLAZA. I'M PRESUMING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE OUT OF THERE, MOVE INTO THERE. SO THEY MUST HAVE DETERMINED THAT THEY HAVE A NEED FOR A DRIVE-THRU, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY, IT ALREADY EXISTS. IT'S NOT LIKE A NEW HUNTINGTON. THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY EVACUATE THAT ONE SPOT.

SO I THINK THEY. LAST TIME THEY SAID THEY WERE CONSIDERING CONSOLIDATING.

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YEAH, I HAD THAT RECOLLECTION. ALL RIGHT. OTHER COMMENTS? I USE THE DRIVE-THRU OCCASIONALLY AND ACTUALLY THE CAR THERE, EXCEPT FOR SOMETIMES THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT IS I HAVE NOT DONE A SURVEY, THOUGH. SURE.

RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS RELATED TO SUP 26009, HUNTINGTON NATIONAL BANK? NO, THANK YOU. DO WISH IT WERE A RESTAURANT WITH THAT? CAN WE GET IT. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THIS IS A ROLL CALL VOTE. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE.

YOU'VE DONE THAT. YOU ALREADY MOVED IT. AND I HAVE A SECOND.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO READ IT IF I DON'T HAVE TO.

NO YOU DON'T. YEAH. GO AHEAD AND READ THE WHOLE LANGUAGE.

OKAY. SO GO AHEAD AND DO IT. OKAY. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 26009 TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW BANK WITH THE DRIVE-THRU AT THE PROPERTY AT 1938 WEST GRAND RIVER AVENUE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS FOUND IN THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE FOR THE LISTED REASONS.

OKAY. YEAH, WE HAD A MOVE BY VICE CHAIR MCCURTIS.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY. IN THAT CASE, COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL? YES. COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY? YES. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? YES.

VICE CHAIR MCCURTIS? YES. AND THE CHAIR VOTES YES.

SO THAT IS APPROVED. OKAY. YOU ARE FREE TO PROCEED TO SITE PLAN.

I WILL SEND AN OFFICIAL LETTER TO YOU AND AUSTIN SAYING THIS IS YOUR AN OFFICIAL APPROVAL LETTER.

OKAY. WITH THAT, WE ARE CLOSING UNFINISHED BUSINESS UNDER 8.

WE CAN MOVE TO NUMBER 9, WHICH IS OTHER BUSINESS.

[9.A. Section 61 Review – Land Preservation Acquisition – Hamilton Property]

YEAH. I'LL BRIEFLY INTRODUCE IT AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO EMMA FROM PARKS WHO IS GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS FAR BETTER THAN I CAN.

ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW ONE OF THESE.

SO WHEN THE MICHIGAN TOWNSHIP LAND PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED THE PURCHASE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND I'M GOING TO SHOW IT TO YOU. I THINK THAT'S MY ROLE BETTER.

THIS IS MANDENBERG WOODS, WHICH IS ALREADY A TOWNSHIP PROPERTY.

IT IS THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE. AND JUST SPEAKING FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I TAKE A PHONE CALL ON THIS PROPERTY EVERY 1 TO 2 WEEKS.

SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. VERY OFTEN IT'S A DUPLEX.

AND I HAVE TO TELL THEM NO AND PRETTY MUCH NO, AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHY.

THIS IS THE TOWNSHIP FLOODWAY. OKAY. SO TAKING IT OFF THE MARKET IS SUPPORTED BY STAFF.

THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES TO THE PROPERTY.

IT IS ADJACENT TO PROPERTY, BUT THEY DO NEED.

IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT BY RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY DO NEED PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER NOW AND LET HER TAKE IT.

BUT GO AHEAD. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

I'M EMMA CAMPBELL, I'M THE LAND STEWARDSHIP COORDINATOR HERE AT THE TOWNSHIP.

I STAFF THE LAND PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2000 TO ACQUIRE LAND IN THE TOWNSHIP AND TO PRESERVE IT.

SO WE HAVE MUCH, VERY MUCH MOVED AWAY FROM ACQUISITION WITH OUR BOARD.

WE HAVE ABOUT 930 ACRES OF PRESERVED LAND. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO KEEP ACQUIRING ALL THE TIME. OUR FOCUS IS MANAGEMENT OF THESE LANDS.

THAT'S MY JOB. THAT'S WHAT I DO. I STEWARD THEM.

BUT WE STILL LOOK TO DIFFERENT PARCELS, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STAFF WHO BRING THEM TO US.

WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO BRING THEM TO US. AND SO WE GO THROUGH OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS TO REALLY VET THESE PARCELS.

AND SO WE'VE PASSED UP A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARCELS THAT JUST ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR OUR PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO OUR CURRENT LAND PRESERVE.

AND THEN OF COURSE BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN THERE.

I THINK WE ALL KNOW I GET A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT FLOODING BECAUSE I AM THE STEWARDSHIP COORDINATOR AND PEOPLE,

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BUT SO, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS A GREAT ACQUISITION FOR OUR PROGRAM.

THERE'S VERNAL POOLS ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH ARE REALLY SPECIAL WETLAND ECOSYSTEMS. AND OF COURSE, THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR STORMWATER MITIGATION TO CLEAN STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT'S GOING INTO THE RIVER HERE.

IT JUST FEELS LIKE A NO BRAINER FOR US. WE CAN ALSO TO BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO OUR DEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH I ALSO COORDINATE AND RUN, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY EMAILS ME EVERY YEAR ABOUT OUR DEER ISSUES.

AND THESE ARE, MANDENBERG WOODS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY PLACE TO HAVE TO HUNT AND HAS A REALLY STEEP SLOPE.

WE'VE HAD TO USE ROPES TO GET OUT OF IT. SO OF COURSE THIS PROPERTY HAS SOME CHALLENGES, BUT IT WOULD JUST EXTEND THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT, WHICH MAYBE SEEMS LIKE IT WOULDN'T MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT WOULD.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL WITH THIS 1.94 ACRES FOR OUR PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

I WANT TO INTERJECT. I THINK I MISSPOKE WHEN I WAS TALKING.

YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION AND THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE IS IN YOUR PACKET.

WELL. I ALWAYS GIVE THEM MICHIGAN ZONING ENABLING ACT A HARD TIME.

I HAD SOME FUN TIMES WITH THE MICHIGAN PLANNING ENABLING ACT, AND I DID FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, EVEN THOUGH IT IS MORE OR LESS PUBLIC ACQUISITION, BUT OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL. YEAH, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, EMMA.

FROM WHAT YOU SAID, IT SOUNDS LIKE ANY MAINTENANCE THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO DO ON THIS NEW PROPERTY WOULD BE BASICALLY A, JUST A LITTLE BIT EXTRA FROM WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. YEAH.

YEP. SO. WHAT SORT OF MAINTENANCE WOULD HAPPEN? LIKE YOU MOW THE UPLAND AND WHAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS DOWN THE SLOPE? SO WITH PRESERVES WE WOULD NOT BE MOWING ANYTHING THAT IS PRESERVED LAND.

I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW IN THAT AREA IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE ROADSIDE, YOU KNOW, THE ROADSIDES OBVIOUSLY KEPT CLEAN FOR VISIBILITY.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS GREAT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE WHEN WE LOOK AT ACQUIRING NEW PARKLAND, WE HAVE TO DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT SPACE.

SO MAINTENANCE FOR US IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS NATIVE HABITAT RESTORATION.

AND SO WE DID SEE SOME A COUPLE INTERESTING INVASIVE SPECIES ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT WOULDN'T REALLY ADD THAT MUCH TO THE 01,700 ACRES I CURRENTLY MANAGE. AND IT JUST GIVES US A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY HAVE ANOTHER AREA FOR A SEED BANK FOR NATIVE PLANTS, WHICH IS THE OTHER HALF OF MANAGEMENT THAT WE DO IS TRYING TO RESTORE THESE SUPER IMPORTANT PLANTS FOR OUR LOCAL WILDLIFE AND INSECTS.

AND YOU'VE GOT SORT OF TEAMS WORKING ON VERNAL POOLS FOR FOLKS WHO ARE FOCUSING ON THAT.

YES, SO YOU MIGHT KNOW YU MAN LEE IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT SHE RUNS THE MICHIGAN VERNAL POOL PROJECT AND WE ARE JUST A PART OF THAT.

SO THAT IS A STATEWIDE CITIZEN SCIENCE PROGRAM.

AND I'M A LOCAL COORDINATOR FOR THAT IN INGHAM COUNTY.

SO WE REALLY JUST TAKE ALL THEIR TOOLS AND IMPLEMENT IT AND, AND HELP OUR VOLUNTEERS UTILIZE THAT PROGRAM.

SO YEAH, WE DEFINITELY MONITOR AND WE CONTRIBUTE TO THAT PROGRAM.

GREAT, THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE COST OF THE TOWNSHIP FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHEN WE.

SO OUR PROCESS IS THAT WE RUN THROUGH AN APPRAISAL AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT BEFORE WE EVEN BRING THIS TO YOU.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT A SITE THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTAMINATED.

AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PRICE IS SOMETHING WE CAN NEGOTIATE.

SO WE DO NOT GO ABOVE APPRAISAL PRICE GENERALLY FOR THAT.

SO IT APPRAISED OUT AT 87,000. IT'S LISTED FOR 94,000.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE OFFERED THE HOMEOWNER AND THEY AGREED TO THE NEXT STEPS OF COURSE PENDING APPROVAL.

OTHERS QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO SUSPEND BYLAWS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TONIGHT, OR? NO, NO, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. OH, OKAY. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE STILL ALWAYS HAD A.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE A VOTE AT A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT SUSPENDING YOUR BYLAWS.

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING YOU CAN VOTE ON.

OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS STILL OUR POLICY THAT WE DIDN'T DO THE SAME.

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OKAY. BUT I AM PRETTY SURE, LIKE I KNOW THREE YEARS AGO, THAT'S HOW WE HANDLED IT.

BUT HOLD ON A SECOND. I'M.

THE SENIOR PLANNER THROWS PIECES. IN THESE MEETINGS SPECIAL RESOLUTIONS.

VOTING. AGENDA.

JUST PATIENT. SOMEBODY SEES IT. AND I THINK.

IT'S NOT AFTER 10 P.M. SO I THINK WE'RE OKAY.

A DECISION ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ZONING REQUEST OR ORDINANCE WILL NOT BE MADE ON THE DATE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THIS IS NONE OF THOSE, NOR IS THIS A PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU CAN PROCEED. OKAY, AND THEN CAN I ASK? WE DIDN'T NEED TO NOTICE THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

NO. ADJACENT TO THIS? NO. I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT I NEED TO CONFIRM THE LANGUAGE.

I CAN'T SPOT THE RESOLUTION. OH. NO MOTION. IT'S DOWN AT THE BOTTOM UNDER PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, OH. NOT ON OUR DOCUMENT. YEAH. IT'S RIGHT ABOVE THAT.

I MISSED IT. IT IS. IT FOLLOWS THE STAFF REPORT.

AND. I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A LANGUAGE TO MOVE TO APPROVE.

I DIDN'T. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO LANGUAGE ON THE REPORT ITSELF.

AT THE BOTTOM OF THE. IS THIS RESOLUTION? YEAH.

NORMALLY THE STAFF HOLD OUR HANDS AND GIVE US A HOLD.

YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT? I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

WE'RE MERELY A PLANNING COMMISSION. THE NEXT ONE OF THESE, I'LL REMEMBER THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, I'M ACTUALLY JOINING COMMISSIONER BROOKS IN A WAY LIKE I AM SOMEWHAT INTRIGUED THAT WE'RE THE APPROVING BODY FOR WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A TOWNSHIP EXPENSE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE TOWNSHIP.

WHAT'S THAT? ARE WE OR ARE WE JUST WE HAVE. FINAL STOP IS THE TOWNSHIP BOARD, SO YOU'RE MOVING IT FORWARD TO THEM AND THEY WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE'RE JUST, I THINK WE'RE NOT GETTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE LAND PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD THAT THEY'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE'RE AGREEING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET THAT STATES.

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN APPROVES THE LOCATION, CHARACTER AND EXTENT OF AN APPROXIMATELY 1.95 ACRE VACANT PARCEL ON THE WEST SIDE OF HAMILTON ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION OF KENMORE DRIVE IN OKEMOS, DIRECTLY ADJACENT AND NORTH OF MANDENBERG WOODS PRESERVE.

SECOND. MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MCDOWELL, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIRMAN MCCURTIS.

AND VOICE VOTE MR. SHORKEY. IT'S A RESOLUTION.

THAT'S BETTER. YEAH, BETTER DO A ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER BROOKS? YES. VICE CHAIRMAN MCCURTIS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL? YES. COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY? YES. THE CHAIR VOTES YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS,

[9.B. Mass Timber Construction Discussion ]

WE CUT ALL THE TREES IN THE NEW PRESERVE AND MAKE THEM INTO A MASS TIMBER BUILDING. MASS TIMBER.

YEAH. I WAS IGNORING ME. JUST GET RID OF IT. LET'S CUT DOWN THE INVASIVE.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME BUCKTHORN IN THERE. I HATE THOSE, I HATE THEM.

THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. I ACTUALLY CLEARED SOME FROM MY PROPERTY AND GOT A PRICK IN MY FINGER.

AND IT'S NEVER GONE AWAY. THERE'S STILL A JUST A BALL IN MY HAND BASICALLY FROM IT.

THEY'RE TERRIBLE. YEAH. SPREAD. OKAY. WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS AT THE REQUEST OF THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT AUTHORITY.

AT YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU INDICATED YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN ADDING MASS TIMBER AS AN AMENITY IN OUR COMMERCIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, IN OUR MIXED USE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES.

SO THOSE ARE SECTION 86-440, PARAGRAPH E, PARAGRAPH 4.

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SO I JUST SIMPLY ADDED THOSE SECTIONS TO YOUR PACKET FOR YOUR PERUSAL.

THOSE ARE THE AMENITIES THAT ARE FOUND IN THOSE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND IF YOU WANTED TO SLIP MASS TIMBER CONSTRUCTION INTO THOSE, THEN INTO THOSE LISTS, THAT WOULD BE AN EASY TEXT AMENDMENT. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'M TRYING TO RECALL WHETHER WHEN WE ESTABLISHED SOME OF THE PREVIOUS AMENITIES.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS TALK ABOUT ADDING DEFINITIONS OR POINTING TO AUTHORITATIVE REFERENCES.

HAVE I GOT THAT WRONG? I WAS, I CAME IN RIGHT AT THE TAIL END LIKE THE.

WE HAD THINGS LIKE EV STATIONS AS AN AMENITY.

YEAH. I DON'T THINK WE TRIED TO SPECIFY. WHAT WE DID ACTUALLY GET INTO A POINT SYSTEM OF IF YOU HAD THIS MANY, THEN YOU GET THIS. THAT IS TRUE. SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE QUESTION, ONE OF THE DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE IS HOW MANY POINTS IS MASS TIMBER WORTH? COMMISSIONER NAHUM HAD PREVIOUSLY SUGGESTED TWO.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THERE'S A ONE POINT, A TWO POINT, A THREE POINT IN THE MUPUD ORDINANCE.

WHAT OTHER TYPES OF THINGS ARE TWO POINTS? A, RIGHT HERE. 75% OF BUILDING FACADES ARE NATURAL MATERIALS.

INTERIOR INDIVIDUAL BICYCLE LOCKERS. GREEN ROOFS ARE TWO POINTS.

ENHANCED PUBLIC TRANSPORT. TRANSIT STOPS. WE DO HAVE FOUR CHARGING STATIONS.

WE DO HAVE. YEAH, THE CHARGING STATIONS. OUTDOOR SEATING PLAZAS.

MIX OF HOUSING TYPES. PUBLIC RECREATION RESOURCES AND ORNAMENTAL PAVING TREATMENTS FOR SIDEWALKS AND PARKING AREAS.

FAMOUS WORDS OF SESAME STREET ARE THESE THINGS LIKE ONE ANOTHER? AND TRY TO GET INTO WHAT KINDS OF PAVERS YOU COULD USE OR WHAT COLOR THE PICKLEBALL COURT SHOULD BE, OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. WELL, I'LL GO UP HERE AND NOTE THAT THREE POINTS IS LEED CERTIFICATION AT SILVER LEVEL OR HIGHER.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, BUT IT MAY BE IT'S POSSIBLE TO TIE MASS TIMBER INTO LEED CERTIFICATION BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME KIND OF ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT LEED HAS A.

CREDITS. SUSTAINABLE SOURCING, MATERIAL TRANSPARENCY AND BUILDING LIFE CYCLE IMPACT ARE ALL LEED CRITERIA.

YEAH. TO LOOK AHEAD AT THE CPUD ORDINANCE. I FEEL LIKE IT'S A SITE AND BUILDING DESIGN FITS IN THERE PRETTY EASILY. THESE ARE NOT TIERED THOUGH.

THESE ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS. THESE ARE NOT POINTS THE SAME WAY THE MUPUD ORDINANCE IS.

SO FITTING THAT IN THAT'S AN EASIER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A SAME KIND OF DECISION.

SO YOU DO RAISE AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE I JUST GOOGLED MASS TIMBER IS SORT OF PART OF GIVES YOU CREDIT FOR LEED CERTIFICATION. AND IT SAYS IT DOES.

SO WOULD WE BE GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DOUBLE DIP IF THEY.

OR DO WE CARE BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD THING. SO IF THAT INCENTIVE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID IT SEPARATELY AS OPPOSED TO.

YEAH, THE CREDIT THAT WE WERE READING IS ACTUAL CERTIFICATION.

AND THE THINGS THAT ARE BELOW IT ARE THINGS THAT ARE CERTIFIABLE.

SO THIS IS JUST LIKE A GREEN ROOF IN MY VIEW THAT, YEAH, IT WILL COUNT TOWARDS LEED CERTIFICATION.

AND IF YOU WANT TO CHOOSE TO GO AND DO THAT AND GET CERTIFIED IT SILVER ABOVE DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE DETAILS. WE'LL JUST TAKE THE CERTIFICATION. OKAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO THROW THESE OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT WOULD GET YOU POINTS FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING OUR POINTS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AND PAY THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IT TAKES TO GET CERTIFIED.

GOT IT. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE AMENITY.

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SO THINK ABOUT HASLETT VILLAGE, RIGHT, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THEY REQUIRED A SETBACK VARIANCE FROM THE REQUIRED SETBACK ON MARSH ROAD.

SO RATHER THAN KICKING THEM BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, IT IS BECAUSE IT'S A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, RATHER THAN KICKING THEM TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS TO GET A VARIANCE, WE SIMPLY SAY, WELL, WE'LL GIVE YOU RELIEF FROM THIS, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE US IN RETURN? THOSE IN RETURN ISSUES, THOSE ARE THE AMENITIES.

THOSE BECOME LOCKED INTO PLACE THEN THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

OKAY. SO THE TRAILHEAD, FOR INSTANCE. THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.

YES. INTERESTING. IT'S OUR CARROT. IT'S THE ONLY CARROT WE GET TO USE. I WAS THINKING OF ALL THE TIMES THAT.

ALL THE QUESTIONS I'VE ASKED ON EITHER MR. SHORKEY OR MR. SCHMITT HAVE BEEN UP THERE AND THEY SAID IF WE EVER HAD A MUPUD, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT.

RIGHT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE MASS TIMBER WOULD FIT IN HERE.

I WILL SAY THAT I WENT TO THE, THE MSU BUILDING THAT DOES THIS AND IT'S VERY COOL.

AND I REALLY LIKE THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURALLY.

I, BUT I HAVE NO SENSE OF LIKE HOW THAT WOULD FIT INTO THIS POINT SCHEME AS A.

IT'S NOT AN INCENTIVE, BUT IT'S KIND OF AN INCENTIVE STRUCTURE.

AND I THINK THE LEED CERTIFICATION IS REALLY INTERESTING.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY COULD TELL US, BUT I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE OTHER ITEMS IN HERE ARE CONTRIBUTE TO LEED, IF ANY. THAT WOULD SORT OF DOUBLE DIP ALMOST.

BUT MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG WORD. THAT COULD ALSO BE A WRONG WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THIS.

YEAH, THE WAY I WAS TRYING TO FRAME IT IS THAT THE ITEM, THE AMENITY THAT MENTIONS CERTIFICATION IS IF YOU GO ON A PAY AND GET CERTIFIED, THEN YOU'RE GOOD FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS DOWN BELOW AND THEN DOUBLE COUNT THEM WOULD BE DOUBLE COUNTING.

BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO. BECAUSE YOU ALREADY GOT THAT ONE. YEAH.

GETTING LEED CERTIFICATION THAT'S LIKE, IT ISN'T JUST HERE'S YOUR THING.

LIKE THERE'S A CONTRIBUTION THAT SOME THAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO. BUT YEAH, LIKE. IT'S POSSIBLE TO GO THROUGH AND.

DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF NICE STUFF, BUT SAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO AFTER THE CERTIFICATION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T NEED TO PAY THE MONEY TO THAT ORGANIZATION OR DO MY MISCHARACTERIZATION.

IS THAT MISCHARACTERIZED? RIGHT. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT LIST THAN THE MUPUD, RIGHT? OH YOU ARE. I'M SORRY. HERE. SO NUMBER 1.A ONE IS LEADERSHIP CERTIFICATION, RIGHT? AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING BELOW THAT WILL COUNT FOR SOME LEED POINTS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL.

YEAH, RIGHT DOWN TO THE PUBLIC ART. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS IN THAT LIST.

OKAY. I THINK WE A PRIOR PLANNING COMMISSION KIND OF PICKED THOSE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT.

I MENTIONED BEFORE, BY THE WAY, ONE OF OUR SISTER INSTITUTIONS IN WESTERN MICHIGAN THAT JUST BUILT A RESIDENCE HALL FROM MASS TIMBER.

THEY DID IT IN SIX WEEKS. WOW. ALL THE MATERIALS WERE PREFABBED SHIPPED UP FROM THE FORESTS OF THE SOUTH AND BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.

CRANES JUST STUCK IT ALL TOGETHER.

AND WAY CHEAPER. AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF CREATING CONCRETE VERSUS GROWING TREES IS

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WELL, THERE'S CONCRETE FLOORS, BUT NO STRUCTURAL CONCRETE OR STEEL.

YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S TRUE, THEN I WOULD SAY I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE PUT IN THE TOP CATEGORY.

LIKE YOU COULD ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY GENERATION SYSTEMS HAS A BIGGER ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS, I DON'T THINK THE ORDERING IS REALLY OTHER THAN THE LEED CERTIFICATION.

I'M NOT SURE THE ORDERING IS INTENTIONAL. BUT THE TOP SECTION IS THREE, IT COMES AS THREE AND THE NEXT ONE COUNTS AS TWO.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT OFF THE CUFF. I DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF QUANTIFYING ALL THESE THINGS AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MEASURE THEM AGAINST THEMSELVES.

MR. SHORKEY ARE YOU AWARE, LIKE WHEN THE MUPUD ALL THESE TOGETHER, AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WERE HERE AT THE TAIL END.

YEAH, SURE. MAYBE A QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

I CAN LOOK IT UP. YEAH. IS LIKE, IS THERE A WAY OF MEASURING THESE ITEMS AGAINST, THE AMENITIES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER? LIKE TO QUANTIFY THEIR EFFECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE? OR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVALUATION CRITERIA WAS MENTIONED DURING THE DISCUSSION OR THE CREATION OF THE ORDINANCE.

I CAN I KNOW HOW IT HOW IT CAME OUT. I KNOW THAT WE'VE NEVER ANALYZED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. OKEMOS VILLAGE.

YOU KNOW, THAT FELL THROUGH, RIGHT. SO THAT HAD A PACKAGE OF AMENITIES THAT BY NOW, IF IT HAD PROCEEDED, WE'D BE LOOKING AT. HASLETT VILLAGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

PART OF THAT CONSTRUCTION IS THE TRAILHEAD, AND THAT IS AN AMENITY.

SO WE'RE SEEING THAT STARTING THAT THAT LAND STARTING TO BE PUSHED AROUND AND PUT TOGETHER, RIGHT. WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT HASLETT VILLAGE AS IT BUILDS OUT.

ARE THERE OTHER. THAT IS NOT A CELL PHONE. THAT IS A TV.

THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHAT. I THOUGHT WAS AN ICE CREAM TRUCK AND I WAS GETTING ALL EXCITED.

I SAT HERE THINKING, WHY DID EMMA LEAVE HER CELL PHONE ON ANYWAY? AT ANY RATE, SORRY. I DON'T MEAN TO GET. THAT'S EXACTLY MY RINGTONE.

I COULD SEE A JUSTIFICATION FOR A THREE POINT AMENITY OR A TWO POINT AMENITY.

ON ONE HAND, IT'S NOT JUST AN ESTHETIC THING, RIGHT? MASS TIMBER IS IT'S STRUCTURAL. AND YOU'RE SEEING STRUCTURAL THINGS, KIND OF STRUCTURAL THINGS. YOU'RE SEEING IF YOU'RE BUILDING A PARKING DECK, THAT'S A STRUCTURAL THING.

THAT'S NOT AN ESTHETIC THING. WHEREAS IF YOU GO INTO THE THE TIER TWO LIST IT'S TALKING ABOUT BUILDING FACADES USING NATURAL MATERIALS. THAT'S NOT STRUCTURAL. IT'S COOL, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

BUT IT'S, IT'S TWO POINTS, NOT A THREE POINT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS A TREMENDOUS ORNAMENTAL FACTOR TO THE MASS TIMBER CONSTRUCTION AND ITS INTERIOR TO A BUILDING, RIGHT? LIKE, I DON'T THINK YOU SEE THE EXTERIOR BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL CLADDING THE BUILDING.

I, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. I'M WILLING TO BE PROVEN WRONG, BUT I THINK IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT.

SO MAYBE IT DOES. I WOULDN'T GO DOWN TO A TIER ONE, THOUGH.

I THINK YOU COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT FOR A TIER THREE OR.

THERE'S EIGHT AMENITIES IN THE TIER THREE LIST, AND THERE'S NINE AMENITIES IN THE TIER TWO LIST.

SO YOU COULD BALANCE THEM. YOU LIKE SYMMETRY? YEAH. EVERYBODY ALWAYS WONDERED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE. AND THAT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL. DEMONSTRATION OF SAUSAGE MAKING.

WE JUST WANTED IT TO LOOK THE SAME. SAME NUMBERS.

I MEAN, LOOK, MY NON-EXPERT OPINION IS TWO SEEMS TO BE THE RIGHT WAY JUST BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT ONE AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS LEED CERTIFICATION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTI-LEVEL PARKING DECKS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE HARD PERCENTAGES ON TOTAL UNITS AS AFFORDABLE.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, PROJECT 25% GROSS FLOOR AND THEN ALTERNATIVE GENERATION SYSTEMS. THOSE SEEM WORTHY OF THREE POINTS. THAT SEEMS OKAY.

THE THREE BALL VERSUS JUST A JUMP SHOT. COMMISSIONER SHREWSBURY.

[00:45:01]

I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE THREE AMENITY THINGS BYPASSED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE IN A PROJECT.

I'D HATE TO SEE THOSE BYPASSED FOR COST SAVINGS AND DISINCENTIVIZE THOSE IN A WAY LIKE, OH, WE'LL JUST DO THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S EASY AND THEN NOT DO THE OTHER ONES THAT WE ALSO WANT TO SEE. THAT I THINK MAYBE REQUIRE MORE OF AN INVESTMENT, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF A BIGGER DEAL AND THIS IS A GOOD ONE, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A BUILT-IN INCENTIVE IF IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO DO IT.

SO WE WANT TO REWARD THEM FOR DOING IT, BUT WE WANT IT TO DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE ALSO WANT THEM TO DO.

IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO GO, THEN I CAN PUT TOGETHER LIKE A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR THE NEXT FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING.

NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU'RE NOT THERE, BUT CERTAINLY YOU CAN PUT THE PUT THIS IN ORDINANCE FORM AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I THINK IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE. I MIGHT DO THIS.

I FEEL LIKE COMMISSIONER NAHUM MAY HAVE SOME LIKE DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE HERE.

YEAH. AND SO IT'D PROBABLY BE YEAH. SO IT'D PROBABLY BE GOOD TO HAVE.

RIGHT. YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON JUNE 8TH.

YEAH, SURE. I THINK HE WORKS IN THIS BUILDING.

OKAY. YEAH. DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE IS GOOD. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUICK, INTERESTING TIDBIT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY INTERESTING. THE, I DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY PARKING GARAGES THAT WERE ALSO MADE OUT OF MASS TIMBER AND THERE ARE AND THEY BECOME MODULAR, AND YOU CAN BASICALLY REUSE SECTIONS OF THEM, WHICH IS REALLY FASCINATING.

AND ALSO, I CAN'T IMAGINE, GIVEN THE COST OF CONCRETE AT THE MOMENT AND HOW WE WANTED A PARKING GARAGE IN THE VILLAGE OF OKEMOS, OR WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT, I WONDER WHAT THE EFFECT WOULD BE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS POTENTIALLY ON REDUCING COST.

AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE OF THESE THAT I'M ABLE TO FIND.

SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING WORTH KIND OF THINKING ABOUT MORE BROADLY.

PERSONALLY, I'M LEANING TO THREE POINTS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT FOR CONSIDERING THE TWO POINTS AS WELL.

YEAH. I WAS LEANING TOWARDS THREE POINTS TOO AFTER I SAW THE PARKING GARAGE KIND OF THING.

I CAN SHOW YOU BOTH. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I'LL SHOW YOU A RESOLUTION THAT SHOWS IT AS A THREE, AND THEN YOU CAN HASH IT OUT AGAIN WHEN COMMISSIONER NAHUM IS HERE.

THAT'S EASY. DID YOU ENJOY THAT? YOU GET THREE POINTS FOR PUBLIC ART.

THAT'S A NICE TOUCH. IT'S JUST A TORONTO WHERE THEY REQUIRE 10% OF EVERY PROJECT TO HAVE PUBLIC ART, AND THEY HAVE SOME OF THE BEST DISPLAYS OF PUBLIC ART I'VE EVER SEEN.

THAT ONE ACTUALLY SCARES ME THE MOST. SOMEBODY COMES IN HERE AND SAYS, BUT I'VE GOT PUBLIC ART, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS NOT AT ALL APPEALING.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY? ME TOO. YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, GO TALK TO THE SUPREME COURT.

ART IS VERY SUBJECTIVE. BUT I WILL KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT.

SO YEAH, IT SAYS JUSTICE. I KNOW THE FOLKS THAT BUILT THE BUILDINGS DOWN AT JOLLY AND OKEMOS THAT HAVE THE RUST FEATURE. YEAH. THEY PUT A BUNCH OF SCULPTURES IN THEIR PARKING OR ROUNDABOUT.

I LOVE THEM. ALSO ROUNDABOUTS ARE ALSO A FUN DEBATE.

ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, MR. SHORKEY, DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? IT SOUNDS LIKE TWO VERSIONS. ONE WITH TWO POINTS, ONE WITH THREE POINTS. AND WE'LL SEE. I DO. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN I'LL JUST I'LL DO THE. WE'RE NOT, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AS BIG A RUSH FOR THE CPUD ORDINANCE, BUT I'LL SINCE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE MOTION, I'LL DO THAT.

AND IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL PUT IT IN THE SITE DESIGN, LIKE I MENTIONED VERY BRIEFLY, AND JUST SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE. OKAY. WITH THAT, THAT IS OUR OTHER BUSINESS.

WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM 10, REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, A TOWNSHIP BOARD UPDATE.

[10.A. Township Board update ]

THEY DID THE FINAL ADOPTION FOR THE CAPSTONE, HANNAH BOULEVARD CONDITIONAL REZONING.

THEY DID THE FINAL ADOPTION FOR THE TEKCHANDANI REZONING ON JOLLY ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION, WHAT THE DATA CENTER MORATORIUM WAS.

BUT THEY DISCUSSED THE, HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE PARKING ORDINANCE UPDATE.

[00:50:05]

AND THE CHICKEN ORDINANCE UPDATE AS WELL. BOY, THAT WAS A HOT NIGHT FOR THE BOARD.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHICKEN. YES. YOU GOT CHICKENS AND LIQUOR, WHAT MORE CAN YOU ASK FOR A TOWNSHIP BOARD? EXACTLY. FRIED CHICKEN. ANYWAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.

OTHERWISE, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

VERY WELL. LIAISON REPORTS. WHO WAS LIAISON? NOWADAYS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONER ROLE ON VACATION.

[10.B. Liaison reports ]

AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER NAHUM WAS THE ONLY OTHER COMMISSIONER THAT IS LIAISING CURRENTLY, AND HE IS EXCUSED FOR THIS MEETING. WITH THAT PROJECT UPDATES.

NO UPDATE UPDATES IN THIS REPORT. VERY WELL, PUBLIC REMARKS.

THERE ARE NO PUBLIC. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. CAN WE GET JUST A LITTLE TASTE OF THE KEDI CRAFT.

[13.COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ]

IT'S A PROPERTY THAT ZONED PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND THE LANGUAGE.

IN PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SAYS. THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN SAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT PUBLIC.

ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE THE APPLICATION. KNOW THEY WANT TO DO A RESTAURANT IN A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING.

NO DRIVE-THRU IN THIS CASE. AND WE'VE BEEN TAKING THE POSITION YOU NEED TO REZONE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE SAYS COMMERCIAL, RESTAURANTS ARE ALLOWED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PRIMARY USE, AND THEY'RE TAKING THE POSITION.

WELL, NO, YOU SAY RESTAURANTS ARE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT SOUND, MAKE IT SOUND COMBATIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THAT. BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, OUT OF CURIOSITY, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A DEFINITIONAL QUESTION HERE ON THE ZONING.

LIKE IS THERE. LOTS OF DISCUSSION FOR JUNE 8TH.

YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I GAVE YOU A SYNOPSIS.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT. THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER THE, THE TWO YEARS AGO YOU DID THE REZONING FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF COPPER CREEK AND TOOK IT TO RA, THEY'RE NOW DOING A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR A LARGE PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY, AND THAT REQUIRES A REZONING IN ITS OWN RIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT CHANGING THE ALLOWED LAND USE. IT'S JUST PRESERVING WETLANDS AND OPEN SPACE.

THE ONLY THING THAT'S EVER ON MY WAY TO THE MAC IS WE REZONED, I THINK THERE WAS LIKE A HISTORICAL HOME OVER THERE THAT THESE GUYS WANTED TO BUY TO BUILD A CANNABIS OR MARIJUANA SHOP. I THINK THEY CAME BACK BECAUSE I THINK THEY SAID, WE LOOKED AT THE BUILDING AND IT TURNS OUT WE CAN'T DO IT.

YEAH. AND THEN I WONDER IF THEY JUST COMPLETELY ABANDONED THAT AT THIS POINT.

YEAH. YEAH. WITH THE MARIJUANA TAX. OKAY. LET'S SEE.

SO THEN AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE NO MORE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, AS I UNDERSTAND.

NOPE. WITH THAT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED.

SO MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROOKS.

ALL IN FAVOR AYE. AYE. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.