STARTED. OKAY, LET ME GET MY. OKAY. GOOD EVENING.
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IT IS 632, AND I WILL OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.WELCOME TO THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING.
TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 21ST, 2025, AND FIRST STEP WILL BE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA. ANY MOTION HERE? MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
HOW ABOUT THAT? HOLD ON A SECOND. I THINK STAFF IS TRYING TO RECORD.
SORRY. IT'S OKAY. OH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MEMBER. ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO. FIRST THINGS FIRST.
[2. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]
NEXT WE WILL GO TO APPROVAL OF AGENDA, WHICH I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.I'LL SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS A VOTE TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
[3. CORRECTIONS, APPROVAL AND RATIFICATION OF MINUTES]
CORRECTION, APPROVAL AND RATIFICATION OF MINUTES FROM APRIL 16TH, 2025.I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. OKAY.
SECOND. ALL RIGHT, AND THIS WILL BE A VOTE TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S OR THE MINUTES FOR APRIL 16TH, 2025.
[6.A. ZBA CASE NO.: 25-03 (Playmakers Inc.), 2299 West Grand River Avenue, Okemos, MI 48864]
WE MOVE DIRECTLY INTO NEW BUSINESS. WHICH BRINGS US TO ZBA CASE NUMBER 25, DASH THREE, PLAYMAKERS INC, 2299 WEST GRAND RIVER AVENUE OKEMOS, MICHIGAN 48864.GO AHEAD, MR. CHAPMAN. OKAY, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPAIR OR MAINTAIN A NONCONFORMING SIGN AT 2299 WEST GRAND RIVER AVE. THE CURRENT SIGN WAS INSTALLED IN 1957 AND IS NONCONFORMING IN SIZE AND HEIGHT.
THE SIGN WILL BE TAKEN DOWN TO RESTORE AND MODERNIZE.
PLAYMAKERS HAS PREVIOUSLY ATTEMPTED TO REPAIR, SLASH RESTORE THE SIGN IN 2023.
SO IN ORDER TO PERMANENTLY FIX THE SIGN, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE IT T EMPORARILY? RARELY. SO IT CAN BE COMPLETELY RESTORED IN A SIGN SHOP.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES ANY NONCONFORMING SIGN THAT RECEIVES REPAIR, REINFORCEMENT, ALTERATION, IMPROVEMENT, OR MODERNIZING, NOT EXCEED 30% OF THE APPRAISED REPLACEMENT COST.
STAFF WORKED WITH THE TOWNSHIP ASSESSOR TO DETERMINE COMPARABLE PRICES FOR THE SIGN, BUT GIVEN THE AGE OF THE SIGN AND THE DESIGN, WE WERE UNABLE TO GET DEFINITIVE VALUE SLASH COST REPLACEMENT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAPMAN. WOULD THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE LIKE TO SPEAK? AND YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, AND Y MARSH .
PLAYMAKERS IS 2299 WEST GRAND RIVER AVENUE. FIRST, WE LIKE TO THINK OF THE SIGN AS PRICELESS SO WE CAN SPEND AS MUCH AS WE WANT. SO I GUESS MY QUICK WRITE UP IS ON IT. SHOPPING CART LADY'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1957.
SHE IS 68 YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT. PLAYMAKERS IS TRYING TO MAKE IT SO SHE HITS THAT CENTENNIAL MARK, HITS THAT 100 - YEAR MARK. A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
ANECDOTALLY, WE FIND THAT LOCAL PEOPLE LOVE IT.
WE HEAR ALL THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE STORE ABOUT HOW COOL THAT SIGN IS.
ACTUALLY, LAST WEEK DURING THE POWER OUTAGE, WE GOT A TEXT FROM ONE OF OUR STAFF.
THEY HAD A LOT OF FIVE, ONE SEVEN DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE SPARTY AND ALL THAT, BUT YOU COULD GET YOUR SHOPPING CART LADY TATTOO IF YOU WANTED, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING A FULL REFRESH OF SHOPPING CART FOR PROBABLY TEN YEARS.
THIS FEBRUARY, WHEN WE UPDATED THE PLAYMAKERS LOGO, WE HAD THE PLACARD REPLACE ON IT.
JUST JUST THE PLAYMAKERS PLACARD, AND SPARTY AND I ACTUALLY WERE OUT THERE TALKING WITH SIGNS BY THE LOCAL COMPANY THAT WE HAD DO THAT AND JUST SAID, WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS RECOMMEND IF WE EVER REALLY WANTED TO MODERNIZE, FIX THIS UP AND MAKE HER LAST THE NEXT FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS? AND THAT CONVERSATION REALLY SPARKED SOMETHING THAT WE LATCHED ON TO AND THOUGHT, NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE THESE UPDATES TO SHOPPING CART LADY.
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SO SIGNS BY CRANNY GOT US A QUOTE. MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH AMBER CLARK FROM THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT AUTHORITY, SEEING IF THEY COULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS, BUT REGARDLESS, WE FEEL NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT TO ALTER, NOT TO CHANGE, NOT TO MAKE BRIGHTER, BUT TO GIVE HER WHAT WE ARE CALLING INTERNALLY AS A GLOW UP. WE WANT TO REALLY REFRESH HER AND MAKE SOMEONE WHO SEES HER.
NOW THINK OF 1957 WHEN SHE WAS FRESHLY INSTALLED.
OBVIOUSLY, KEITH EXPLAINED, THE REASON THAT WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THE COST OF THIS IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL TO DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY DO WITH SHOPPING CART LADY.
NOT THE ENTIRE SIGN WILL COME DOWN, BUT JUST THE TOP SHOPPING CART LADY WILL COME DOWN.
THEY WILL TAKE HER OFF, TAKE HER BACK TO THEIR WORKSHOP AND REPLACE THE ELECTRONICS IN HER.
THEY WILL BE A LOT MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, LAST LONGER, AND THEN MAINTAIN COLOR FOR A LOT LONGER.
SO AGAIN, REPLACE THE LIGHTS ON KIND OF THE FIGURE.
GET HER LOOKING BACK TO ORIGINAL SHAPE CONDITION.
THERE IS A GRAPHIC ON HER, SO THEY'LL REPLACE THE GRAPHIC UPDATE THAT, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS REPLACE THE FULL REPLACE THE PILLAR. I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT THE ALUMINUM SLEEVE THAT GOES UP AND THEN FINALLY THE CABINETS FOR THE PLAYMAKER SIGNS AND THEN THE LOT AND PEAK PERFORMANCE SIGNS. SO REPLACE THE OUTSIDE OF THEM.
ALSO, THERE IS STILL SOME FLUORESCENT BACKLIGHTING BEHIND THOSE SIGNS.
SHE WAS DEFINITELY NOT GREEN WHEN SHE WAS INSTALLED.
WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SCHMITT FAMILY.
THEY SAID IT WAS A BROWN MAROONISH COLOR. SOME ORANGES AND THEN DEFINITELY CREAM ON THERE.
I THINK SHE'S AWESOME COMING UP THE CORRIDOR AND SEEING HER.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MARSH. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS PIECE TONIGHT? GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. IN THAT CASE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL GET INTO BOARD TIME.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANT TO JUMP OFF AT? YES. I BELIEVE I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THE ROOM THAT REMEMBERS IT FROM 1957.
I DIDN'T LIVE HERE, BUT I HAD RELATIVES, SO I REMEMBER IT WELL.
YEAH. YEAH. SO I THINK I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS ON RESTORING THAT SIGN.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK IT'S MEETS ALL OF OUR CRITERIA.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE ONE BY ONE, AND . YEAH, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS.
OKAY. MR. CHAPMAN, CAN I JUST ASK JUST TO FOR CLARIFICATION THE RECORD HERE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, THE REQUIREMENT OF A NONCONFORMING SIGN TO NOT EXCEED 30% OF THE APPRAISED REPLACEMENT COST. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO APPLY TO MANY SIGNS IN THE TOWNSHIP? NO. WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE HERE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT. I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE SIGNS THIS AGE AT LEAST, RIGHT? OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS. I WAS KIND OF SATISFIED THERE WASN'T I MEAN, IT'S AN ODDBALL LITTLE CLAUSE THERE FOR NONCONFORMING SIGNS THAT NOT TO EXCEED THE 30%.
SO I DON'T I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE NOT ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PRICE TAG FOR SHOPPING CART LADY, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE. IT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF ITS HISTORICAL VALUE.
SO YEAH, AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NEWER TO THE TOWNSHIP, I KNOW SHOPPING LADY HAS BEEN THERE FOR ALL THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE TOWNSHIP, AND MY KIDS LOVE SEEING SHOPPING CART LADY. SO I KNOW THAT 'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SEE.
WE WANT TO SEE SHOPPING CART LADY FUNCTION EVERY NIGHT, LIKE, NOW.
LIKE, OCCASIONALLY IT DOESN'T WORK, OR HER LEGS GET STUCK.
THE WHEELS NO LONGER ALWAYS SPIN. SO IT'S LIKE, LET'S GET HER.
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YEAH, IT IS WHEN THOSE THOSE TIMES WHEN YOU HIT IT AT THE RIGHT TIME AND IT'S NIGHTTIME AND YOU SEE IT.IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN EXCITING. SO I'M WITH MEMBER TREZISE.
I THINK WE CAN GO THROUGH THE CRITERIA, AND THIS SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR CUT TO ME, BUT ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO THE JUST LIKE ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
SO WE'VE. LAST TIME YOU GUYS WERE HERE, I THOUGHT THIS PLAYMAKERS OWN THE BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN THE VARIANCE THOUGH APPLIES TO THE PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY TO THIS SIGN.
RIGHT. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHO THE APPLICANT IS. CORRECT.
I MEAN THEY HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER. SO OKAY.
YEAH OKAY. YEAH I MEAN I LIKE I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT OVERALL.
ONLY ON THE REPAIR OF THE SIGN AT THIS MOMENT, AND IS THAT A ONE TIME REPAIR LIKE YOU DO IT THIS TIME? IF, LIKE TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WE WANTED TO DO IT AGAIN, YOU'D HAVE TO. YOU'D HAVE TO DO THAT. YEAH.
YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO DON'T LOSE YOUR PAPERWORK.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR READY TO GET INTO CRITERIA? OKAY. CRITERIA ONE IS THAT UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST THAT ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND OR STRUCTURE THAT ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO OTHER LAND OR STRUCTURES IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT, AND THAT THESE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NOT SELF-CREATED.
YES. MEMBER KOENIG I WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S PECULIAR BECAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER, HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT ZONING CODES, AND FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN ZONING CODE REQUIRE FOR LIKE A NONCONFORMING USE OR A SIGN IN THIS CASE ANY STIPULATIONS RELATED TO A COST, RIGHT? I'VE ONLY SEEN ONE.
I'VE ALWAYS SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE, AND IT'S NONCONFORMING.
IF IT BLOWS DOWN OR YOU GOT TO REPLACE IT TO WHAT IT WAS, YOU CAN'T CHARGE IT, YADA YADA, YADA. I'VE NEVER SEEN A ZONING CODE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT AN APPRAISED COST OF A NONCONFORMING.
SO THAT TO ME IS PECULIAR ENOUGH IN ITSELF, BUT THE MORE PECULIAR THING, WHICH OBVIOUSLY I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE WELL AWARE OF IS THAT I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT THIS SIGN, BEING ORIGINAL FROM 1957 WAS WELL BEFORE THE ZONING CODE THAT HAD HAPPENED HERE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
SO IT'S PROBABLY NON-CONFORMING JUST FOR ONE OF THOSE REASONS THAT COLD IS A LOT YOUNGER THAN THIS, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. SO THAT, TO ME IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY PECULIAR.
THAT IS NOT SELF-CREATED. SELF-CREATED. GOOD.
WELL. WELL STATED. ALL RIGHT. YES, I CAN, I CAN I THINK WE CAN AGREE TO MEET THAT CRITERIA.
CRITERIA NUMBER TWO WOULD BE STRICT INTERPRETATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LITERAL TERMS AND PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER WOULD RESULT IN PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT WOULD PREVENT THE OWNER FROM USING THE PROPERTY FOR A PERMITTED PURPOSE, AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE'RE WE'RE IF WE'RE USING A STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF CODE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE, YOU KNOW, CANNOT HAVE A DOLLAR VALUE ASSESSED TO IT.
I CAN MEET THAT CRITERIA QUITE EASILY. QUITE EASILY.
YES. I SAY THAT IF WE DID FOLLOW THE CODE. MY GUESS IS THAT THE SIGN YOU'D REPLACE IT WITH WOULD PROBABLY BE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE RECORD, BUT A PIECE OF CRAP.
YEAH. 30% OF THE VALUE. I'M SURE YOU WOULD NOT GET ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT'S THERE EVEN NOW, SO.
RIGHT, AND I GUESS THAT WAS THE OTHER POINT. I MISSED IT WHEN I WAS READING IT. SIGNS BY CRANNY. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE ASKED THEM IS, IS THIS WORTH THE INVESTMENT? IS THIS A SIGN STRUCTURALLY SOUND? AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS BACK WHEN THEY USED TO MAKE SIGNS OUT OF STEEL. SO LIKE THE GUTS, THE INNARDS OF THAT SIGN THEY SAID, ARE VERY, VERY SOLID.
SO THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. SO IT REALLY IS JUST A FACELIFT.
I MEAN, NOTHING ELSE IS CHANGING EXCEPT FOR THE OUTER WRAPPINGS AND THE INNER ELECTRICAL WORK,
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WHICH, FRANKLY, WE ALL PROBABLY NEED TO UPDATE ANYWAY.I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES SENSE. STORMS AND RAIN.
YEAH. YEAH. AMAZING, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF BIRDS.
YEAH. IT'S AMAZING THAT IT'S STILL. THAT IT'S STILL THERE. THAT SHE'S IN THE CONDITION SHE'S IN.
CRITERIA NUMBER THREE WOULD BE GRANTING THE VARIANCE IS THE MINIMUM ACTION NECESSARY, WHICH WOULD CARRY OUT THE SPIRIT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SECURE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A MINIMUM ACTION.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS SAYING YES. YES, YOU CAN REPAIR THE SIGN THAT'S A GIVEN.
A YES IS A PRETTY MINIMUM ACTION WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BOARD.
SO I THINK WE COULD MEET THAT QUITE EASILY. CRITERIA FOUR IS GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ADJACENT LAND OR THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY WE CAN ALL PRETTY MUCH AGREE THAT IS IT IS ONE OF THOSE MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP MOMENTS WHERE YOU COME IN AND YOU SEE SHOPPING CART LADY. SO I WILL DEFINITELY I THINK IT WILL AFFECT ADJACENT LAND, THOUGH, BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME SEE IT.
YEAH, IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY BRING [INAUDIBLE] IN ALL OF HER GLORY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PARTIES THIS SUMMER, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA.
I THINK WE REALLY WANT TO HONOR WHAT THE SCHMITZ FAMILY BUILT IN 1957.
SO I THINK THIS SUMMER, WHENEVER WE GO INTO ACTION WITH THIS, WITH [INAUDIBLE], WHEN THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY, WE WILL DO STUFF AROUND IT. IT MAY BE A SHOPPING CART, LADY T SHIRTS AND HATS.
WE'LL GET WE'LL GET CREATIVE. YEAH. THAT'S FUN.
WELL, BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE WILL BE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS THAT SHE COMES DOWN.
YES. SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU ASSURE THEM. SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN WHERE SHE'S GONE FOR A RUN.
OH, I LOVE IT. SHE'S COMING BACK. SHE'S COMING BACK.
SHE'S A MODERN MOM. SHE'S SHE'S SHE'LL SHE'LL BE SHE'LL BE IN HIGH HEELS AND PUT ON RUNNING SHOES.
SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD APPROVE THE VARIANCE OF THAT.
IF YOU GUYS ARE. IF YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT THAT GRAPHIC, THE SIZE.
THE SIZE OF THAT SIGN IS CRAZY. YEAH. THE MORE THE PLAYMAKERS ARE SIX FEET TALL.
YEAH, SHE'S EIGHT FEET TALL. SHE'S MASSIVE. YEAH.
THAT'S IT'S QUITE IMPRESSIVE. IT IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
ALL RIGHT. WELL IN CRITERIA NUMBER FIVE IS GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL BE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH PUBLIC INTEREST AND THE PURPOSES AND INTENT OF THIS CHAPTER, AND I DEFINITELY CAN MEET THAT CRITERIA. SO I'M ABLE TO MEET ALL FIVE CRITERIA.
HOW ARE YOU GUYS FEELING ABOUT THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT.
I AGREE 100%. DO WE HAVE A MOTION. ANYBODY WANT ANYBODY WANT TO BE THE ONE? I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE TO GRANT THE ZONING REQUEST NUMBER 2503 FROM PLAYMAKERS INCORPORATED.
2299 WEST GRAND RIVER AVENUE. ALL SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER 25-03.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. VOTE TO APPROVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MARSH. THANK YOU GUYS.
TAKE GOOD CARE OF HER. YES. GET HER BACK UP THERE.
YES. I LOVE YOU. HERE YOU GO. SHOPPING, LADY GLOW UP.
READY? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GET OUT OF HERE EARLY TONIGHT. YES. OH, THIS IS THIS IS THIS MIGHT GO ON RECORD. THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE SHORTEST.
THE LAST MEETING. THE LAST MEETING WAS. OH. WAS IT.
DANG IT, JIM! DANG IT! JIM, YOU BY TWO MINUTES.
OH, JIM. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE TRIED THAT ONE. THANK YOU GUYS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, WE HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS, AND I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC REMARKS, AND SEEING AS THERE'S NOBODY IN OUR PUBLIC VESTIBULE HERE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC REMARKS AND OPEN UP TO BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND JUST SAY,
[9. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
IT'S SO GREAT TO HAVE A BUSINESS LIKE PLAYMAKERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS DOING THE RIGHT THING, THAT COMES BEFORE US, THAT COMMUNICATES WELL WITH OUR BUILDING PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I HOPE THAT MORE BUSINESSES TAKE THAT INITIATIVE AND FUNCTION THE WAY THAT THEY DO WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WITHIN WORKING WITH THE TOWNSHIP, BECAUSE THAT IS JUST SO REFRESHING THAT THEY ARE PREPARED.SO, I MEAN, I WISH WE HAD ALL PLAYMAKERS IN THE TOWNSHIP, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST APPLICATION WHERE THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH ALL FIVE CRITERIA AND SUMMARIZED [INAUDIBLE] .
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BUT ON THAT NOTE, WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.HOW MANY MINUTES?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.