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>> THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW CALLING TO ORDER THE DECEMBER.
[1. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]
NOVEMBER IS PAST DECEMBER 11TH TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION.FIRST THING I'M GOING TO DO IS CALL THE ROLL.
>> MS. SHREWSBURY INDICATED SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL?
>> COMMISSIONER BROOKS IS NOT HERE. COMMISSIONER SNYDER?
>> CHAIR IS HERE. DO WE HAVE A QUORUM?
>> COMMISSIONER BROOKS IS HERE.
>> COMMISSIONER BROOKS CAME. WE NOW HAVE A QUORUM.
YES, WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC REMARKS.
IS THERE ANYTHING? WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? VERY GOOD. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. IS THERE A MOTION?
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA OF DECEMBER 11TH OF 2023.
>> IT'S CONTAGIOUS THERE YOU GO.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NOW APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 13 OF 2023.>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 13TH, 2023.
>> JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE MINUTES.
THERE'S A STATEMENT IN ROLL CALL WHERE IT SAYS THE CHAIR CALLED THE ROLL OF THE BOARD AND ALL BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.
>> EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE WAS PRESENT. [LAUGHTER]
>> NO, THAT REALLY DOESN'T COUNT.
>> I'LL MAKE THAT CORRECTION. THANK YOU.
>> WITH THE AMENDMENT SUGGESTED BY COMMISSIONER SCALES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES, SAY AYE.
>> THERE IS NO OPPOSITION, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS FROM WILLIAMSTOWN TOWNSHIP.
[6. COMMUNICATIONS]
>> WE WON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS?
>> THEN NOW WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 7.
[7.A. REZ #23036 – 5681 Shaw Street, PO, Professional and Office, to RC, Multiple-Family Residential]
THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER MCCURTIS HAS JOINED US.THAT'S RIGHT, COME IN. YES, COMMISSIONER MCCURTIS.
>> ALL MEMBERS PRESENT [LAUGHTER].
>> EXCEPT THOSE THAT SAID THEY WEREN'T COMING. YES, SIR.
>> WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 7, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION 23036 REGARDING 5681 SHAW STREET.
>> ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.
LILAC LLC IS THE APPLICANT FOR REZONING NUMBER 23036 ON
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5681 SHAW STREET TO REZONE ONE PARCEL AT SAID PROPERTY FROM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO RC, WHICH IS A MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.THIS EXISTING PROPERTY IS UNOCCUPIED, BUT IF YOU'D BEEN OVER THERE, THERE IS A BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PREVIOUSLY OPERATED AS A DENTAL OFFICE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM THE 2017 MASTER PLAN, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY IN THE R3 CATEGORY, WHICH IS ONE AND A QUARTER TO THREE-AND-A-HALF DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THAT AND ACCORDING TO THE ZONING PLAN IN THE MASTER PLAN CORRELATES TO THE RA, RB, AND RX ZONING DESIGNATIONS, WHICH IF YOU TOTAL THOSE ALTOGETHER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SINGLE-FAMILY AND WITH THE RX A POSSIBLE DUPLEX.
THOSE ARE THE ZONINGS THAT CORRELATE WITH THE R3.
THE CURRENT DESIGNATION OF PO DOES NOT CORRELATE IS MORE INTENSE THAN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE APPLICANT MADE THE POINT IT IS CLOSER, BUT IT IS STILL MORE INTENSE THAN THE MASTER PLANS FOR IN THAT AREA.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, NORTH AND EAST ARE ALSO DESIGNATED R3.
THEN TO THE SOUTH, THAT PINK AREA THAT YOU SEE THERE IS DESIGNATED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS MIXED CORE.
THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST RIGHT HERE, IS OWNED BY THE INGHAM COUNTY DRAIN COMMISSION'S OFFICE.
THE SCHEDULE OF REGULATIONS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE INDICATES THAT THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THE RC ZONE, THIS PARCEL IS LARGE ENOUGH AND WIDE ENOUGH.
THE RC ZONE DOES ALLOW 14 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER ACRE AS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 0.4 ACRE IN SIZE, THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
HIS REQUEST FOR A QUADPLEX IS WITHIN THE RC ZONE.
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, IT'S THE VILLAGE OF NEKOMA RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS UNIQUE TO THIS AREA IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT'S ALL OF THIS TO THE WEST, NORTH, AND EAST, AND THEN EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED C2 COMMERCIAL.
THERE'S NO WETLAND ISSUES OR ANYTHING WITH THE SITE.
WE DID LOOK AT OUR ITE TRIP GENERATION MANUAL AND COMPARE GENERAL OFFICE TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND AFTER THAT ANALYSIS, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OR ANYTHING, NO TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRED FOR THIS REZONING.
IT'S PRETTY COMPARABLE WHEN YOU DO THOSE COMBINATION, DO THOSE CALCULATIONS.
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK.
THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY.
SINCE THIS IS SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES BY THE NA ZONING FOR THE NEKOMAS VILLAGE, WOULD IT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO REZONE THIS AS PART OF THE NA AS OPPOSED TO IT, AND WOULD ALSO ALLOW UP TO 14 PER ACRE?
>> IT DOES NOT ALLOW THEM ON THE 14TH PER ACRE.
>> I THOUGHT I READ THAT IT DID.
>> I CAN CHECK THAT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD COMPLY.
ALL USES PERMITTED AND BY RIGHT, AND THE RB DISTRICT, WHICH IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS AND THEN TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS.
USES PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT, EVERYTHING ALLOWED IN THE 376 C. SO BY SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
WE HAD A LENGTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ROUTES THAT THE APPLICANT CAN TAKE.
BY REZONING TO THE RC, THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY TO SITE PLAN WITH THE QUAD.
IF THEY REZONED TO THE RN, THEY THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO GET THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
SO YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT IT IS A LONGER PROCESS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
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DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE DENTAL OFFICE WILL NO LONGER OCCUPY THAT BUILDING, OR IS IT MIXED USE WHERE THE DENTAL OFFICE CAN STILL BE THERE?>> I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT MORE DIRECTLY.
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEIR PLAN IS TO REDEVELOP THAT BUILDING.
THE BUILDING WOULDN'T BE DEMOLISHED.
IT WOULD NOT BE A DENTAL OFFICE.
IT HASN'T BEEN A DENTAL OFFICE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
>> IT IS NOT A CURRENTLY OPERATING DENTAL OFFICE AND I'VE GOT PICTURES THAT PROVE IT.
>> IS THERE ANY CURRENT OCCUPANCY?
>> I WAS WONDERING A STAFF COULD SAY A BIT MORE ABOUT THE MIXED USE CORE DESIGNATION IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND MAYBE HOW THAT DOES OR DOESN'T RELATE TO THE PEKAH IN THAT PART OF THE TOWNSHIP?
>> WELL, THIS ISN'T THE MIXED USE CORE, BUT I CAN BRING THAT UP AND I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT, I GUESS.
[NOISE] HERE'S THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT I'M LOOKING AT AND THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS UP IN THIS AREA HERE THAT ZONED IN ON THAT IN YOUR REPORT.
IN MIXED USE CORE, THIS IS WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT IT SPECIFICALLY.
ENVISIONS WALKABLE, ENGAGING STREETSCAPES.
YOU CAN READ IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
MIXED-USE BUILDINGS, RETAILS, MODEL REGULATIONS HERE.
IT'S ZONE C2, SO IT'S NOT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH OR ANYTHING, IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT C2 ZONING.
HERE'S THE HAZLETT PEKAH IT IS.
HERE'S SHAW STREET, RIGHT HERE.
>> SO ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, WHERE IS THIS PROPERTY AT?
>> SHAW STREETS, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT ON THE NORTH END OF THIS.
>> WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME RELEVANT TO THE USES THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN TERMS OF THE INTENTIONS OF HOW I UNDERSTAND THAT MIXED USE CORE TO BE A WALKABLE, BIKEABLE ENVIRONMENT.
>> SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, I THOUGHT I SAW [NOISE] IN THERE THAT IT SAID APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR PLANNING DIRECTOR.
>> FOR ONE OF THE GETTING A PERMIT TO DO THIS.
I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT THAT.
>> PLANNING DIRECTOR DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LEASE OWN THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, HE WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO SITE PLAN, WHICH IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF? DOES THE PRESENTER WISH TO ADDRESS US?
>> NO, JUST A QUICK POINT OF VIEW.
>> IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GIVE ME YOUR NAME.
>> EXCUSE ME, SIR, COULD YOU TELL US YOUR NAME, PLEASE FIRST?
>> MY ADDRESS? IT'S IN 16922 SONGE ST IN ISLANSING. I WORK AT THE MSU.
THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
AT THAT TIME IT WAS USES AND MULTI MEDICAL OFFICES.
WE HAVE FOUR DISTINCT UNITS THERE WITH FOUR GAS METERS, FOR WATER METERS, FOR ELECTRICITY METER.
FOR COMPLETE SEPARATE UNITS IN THERE, BUT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THE PLAN IS ACTUALLY TO BASICALLY CONVERT THOSE UNITS AND HAVE
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THEM AS RESIDENTIAL BASICALLY PROPERTIES FOR LEASING.>> AS I UNDERSTOOD IT FROM THE DRAWINGS AND PICTURES YOU PUT IN THERE, YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON CHANGING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
YOU'RE JUST CHANGING THE USE OF THE BUILDING AS THEY ARE NOW ON AND UPGRADING IT TO CURRENT STANDARDS; IS THAT CORRECT?
>> EXACTLY. WE KEEP THE BUILDING AS IS, WE DON'T CHANGE THE OUTSIDE, WE DON'T CHANGE THE SITE PLAN, NOTHING.
WE JUST MAINTAIN IT, RENOVATE IT, AND BASICALLY IT HAS ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, SO WE JUST USE THOSE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR BRIAN.
>> HOW MANY TENANT FACILITIES WERE IN THE BUILDING?
>> LIKE THE APPLICANT SAID, THERE ARE FOUR METERS THERE SO AT SOME POINT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN FOUR OFFICE SUITES.
IT HAD THE CAPABILITY OF HAVING FOUR, WHETHER THERE WERE FOUR AT ANY POINT OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW.
>> SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES.
>> IS THERE EVER BEEN ANY, THE PARKING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE USE AND THE PRELIMINARY, I KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T A SITE PLAN REVIEW, BUT THEY'RE BETTER A PRACTICAL LOOK TO SEE IF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED THERE FITS MOST OF THE REGULATIONS OR IS IT THE STAFFS VIEW THAT THEY'LL BE A NUMBER OF VARIANCES REQUIRED IN ORDER THAT THIS HAPPEN.
>> NO. I THINK THE STANDARD FOR MULTI-FAMILY IS TWO-AND-A-HALF PER UNIT.
THERE'S SPACE THERE FOR 10 SPOTS.
WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT DURING SITE PLAN REVIEW, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARKING AREA WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE IN COUNTY ROAD DEPARTMENTS.
THEY'LL HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON ANYTHING, BUT THEY DO HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE PARKING, YES.
>> I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE AND I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DRIVE BY IT, BUT ARE THERE ANY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES AROUND IT?
>> YES TO THE IMMEDIATE NORTH.
GIVE ME A SECOND. I'LL [NOISE]
>> I THINK NORTH IS DRAIN EASEMENT.
>> THERE WAS A LITTLE [OVERLAPPING].
>> SLIGHTLY NORTH, THERE'S A CONDOMINIUM.
>> HERE'S THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HERE'S THE IAN COUNTY DRAIN COMMISSION PIECE AND THEN THIS IS SINGLE-FAMILY, AND THEN THERE'S THIS DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE.
EVERYTHING WITHIN 300 FEET GOT NOTICED AND WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THESE RATHER.
>> ARE THOSE CONDOS OR DUPLEXES UP THERE?
>> EITHER WAY. I'M JUST SEEING THE TYPE OF BUILDING.
>> WHAT THIS PICTURE SHOWS THEN IS THAT A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD USAGE?
>> THE DENSITY OF IT IS, BUT IF YOU GO UP HERE, THERE IS A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING RIGHT HERE ON THE CORNER OF SEAN LAKE DRIVE.
I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ONE RIGHT HERE AS WELL.
>> I WAS LOOKING AT THE PERSON YOU ARE AND I.
WAS HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING THE ZONING FOR THOSE DIFFERENT, THE CONDOS AS WELL AS THE WHAT YOU WERE JUST POINTING OUT. I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
>> EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH IS RN.
>> WELL, HERE. YEAH. EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH IS RN.
IT'S AN ISLAND OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUT EVERYTHING TO THE WEST, NORTH, EAST, THIS FIRST ROW.
WHEN YOU GET OVER HERE TO THIS CHURCH, THE C2 LINE GOES LIKE THIS AND THEN DOWN LIKE THIS, AND THEN UP LIKE THIS AND THEN TAKES IN THAT PROPERTY, BUT EVERYTHING ACROSS THE STREET, EVERYTHING ADJACENT TO THE NORTH IS RN RESIDENTIAL.
>> I THINK MY ISSUE WAS I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SPECIAL ZONING IS.
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THIS VILLAGE OF PNEUMOCOCCAL MIXED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BUT NOW I KNOW.>> COULD I ASK STAFF TO SCROLL DOWN A BIT SO WE CAN SEE A BIT MORE OF THE NORTH END OF SHAW STREET?
>> YEAH. I'M GOING TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE.
>> AGAIN, THERE'S THE PROPERTY.
>> JUST NORTH OF THAT VIEW PAST LAKE DRIVE, THERE'S A WONDERFUL SECTION OF NEW TOWNSHIP PATHWAY THAT MAKES THAT NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY WALKABLE TO ALL OF THE COUNTY PARK AND ALL THE BUSINESSES UP THERE AT MARTIAN AND LAKE LANSING.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PARCEL IN QUESTION, I'M THINKING, WOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO INCREASE DENSITY IN PLACES IN THE TOWNSHIP FOR WALKABILITY, THAT'S A GREAT SPOT TO DO IT.
THERE ARE ALSO PATHWAYS ALONG HASLETT ROAD THAT LEAD ALL THE WAY TO LARGE AND HAS THE WORD.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF COOL STUFF GOING ON SO FROM THAT ASPECT OF FUTURE LAND USE, IT, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
I'VE BEEN GOING PAST THAT BUILDING EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE 18,19 YEARS AND WONDERING WHAT THE HECK IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT? I SAW A BUNCH OF WORK WAS DONE TO SEAL IT UP AND MAKE SURE IT WASN'T GOING TO DETERIORATE ANY FURTHER AND THAT'S GREAT.
IN FAVOR OF THE LEAST COST PATH TO GETTING THAT PROPERTY WE USED IN THAT KIND OF A WAY.
IT ALSO LOOKS TO ME LIKE THESE ARE NOT SUPER HIGH-END UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO PRICE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF THE MARKET SO I THINK IT MAKES LOT OF SENSE.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PANEL?
>> I WOULD JUST ALSO SAY I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS TOO, IS THAT AREA DEFINITELY IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS ATTENTION, IS GETTING MORE ATTENTION.
THE PATHWAY IS RIGHT THERE, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE AREA, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING THAT ARE IN THAT AREA, IT FITS IN.
>> AS FIT IN FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
>> IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE? I THINK I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS [NOISE] VOTE TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE STAFF.
LET ME PROPOSE A VOTE. A STRAW VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE THE ZONING VARIATION AS REQUESTED [INAUDIBLE]
>> ANYBODY OPPOSE IT? MR. SHORKEY, DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED?
>> THIS WILL BE BACK AT THE JANUARY 8TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR FINAL VOTE AND THEN IT WILL GO TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.
>> THEN WE NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8,
[8.A. REZ #23034 – 4660 Marsh Road, PO, Professional and Office, to C-2, Commercial]
WHICH IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS.ITEM 8A IS THE REZONED FOR 4660 MARSH ROAD.
HERE WE GO. THAT'S THE OLDER PORT AND HERE'S THE RESOLUTION. HERE WE GO. THIS IS A QUICK.
THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING FOR A REZONING NUMBER 23034-4660 MARSH ROAD TO REZONE ONE PARCEL AT SAID PROPERTY FROM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
THE APPLICATION, AS YOU REMEMBER, WAS FOR C2 COMMERCIAL.
DURING THE COURSE OF DISCUSSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION INDICATED THEY WOULD SUPPORT REZONING THIS TO C1 COMMERCIAL.
I GAVE YOU A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S ALLOWED IN EACH ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS BY RIGHT CONDITIONAL USES AND SPECIAL USES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK OUT TO ME, IT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING.
THE C1 COMMERCIAL DOESN'T INCLUDE BARS AND TAVERNS.
THERE'S OTHER DIFFERENCES, BUT THAT'S THE ONE THAT I KEYED IN ON.
SHE'S HERE AGAIN TO SPEAK TO THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
SHE WAS OKAY WITH THE C1 DISTRICT.
IT WORK FOR THE OPERATION SHE'S GOT GOING ON THERE.
THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET FOR THE C1 DESIGNATION.
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>> I THINK IT BROUGHT THIS UP THE LAST TIME, BUT I RECALL THAT AT THE CORNER OF MORPH AND HAMILTON THAT I BELIEVE IT'S AN OPTOMETRY PLACE.
AT THE TIME THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUILDING BUILT BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THEY BUILT A NEW BUILDING THERE, THAT ALL FIT THE WHATEVER ZONING IT WAS FLIPPED THAT USE.
NOW IT APPEARS, BASED ON LOOKING AT THE MAP AND EVERYTHING, THERE ARE THAT AND OTHER USES THAT DON'T FIT THE CURRENT ZONING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 10 OR SO YEARS BETWEEN WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT.
I GUESS THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION IS AN APPROPRIATE USE ALONG MARSH ROAD THERE AND THAT I GUESS I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE C1.
IF C2 ALLOWS, FOR INSTANCE, THINGS LIKE DRIVES-THROUGH RESTAURANTS.
IF IT DOES, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT IN TERMS OF ALLOWING IT, EVEN A POSSIBILITY OF IT, SO I THINK C1 FITS THE USES THAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR NOW.
>> IF I UNDERSTAND, BASICALLY, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THE BUILDING IS ALREADY NON-CONFORMING AND WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THE ZONING INTO CONFORMANCE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN HAPPENING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
>> OKAY. THE C1 IS BASICALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER USES OF PROPERTY AROUND IT. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THE C1 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE C2 PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OPTOMETRY OFFICE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE FAIRLY LARGE CHURCH ADJACENT TO THE NORTH TOO, WHICH ISN'T EXACTLY A COMMERCIAL USE, BUT SURE IT GETS A LOT OF PEOPLE AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE WEEK.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS?
>> I'M SORRY, I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE LAST MEETING.
I DID FOLLOW IT ONLINE AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M THINKING IN THE RIGHT SPOT.
SOME WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE CURVE ON WHAT LOOKS LIKE A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE.
>> THAT IS [OVERLAPPING] YES. THE APPLICANT'S PIECE SINCE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M DYING TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S RELEVANT TO THIS APPLICATION SO IF WE [LAUGHTER] COULD HOLD UP THE PROCESS, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> JUST A REMINDER, THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS HAMILTON, THIS IS MARSH.
THE DREAM PROJECT THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING WAS RIGHT HERE.
IF YOU DON'T MIND TALKING ABOUT THAT, I'LL BRING THE APPLICANT UP FOR THAT.
>> PAMELA NOI. THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT FROM WORK THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY, AND A NEW PERSON BOUGHT THE COMPANY AND THEY CAME BACK AND FIXED IT FOR FREE FOR US ACTUALLY.
SO IT TOOK CARE OF THE FLOODING THAT WAS GOING ON IN THE PARKING LOT.
>> GREAT. IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT INVESTMENT BEING MADE IN THE PROPERTY AND FIXING THOSE PROBLEMS.
>> WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION PRESENTED, WHICH IS PURSUANT TO REZONING REQUEST 23034-4660 MARSH, TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF THAT PROPERTY FROM CURRENT RESIDENTIAL, I BELIEVE IT'S RC.
>> PO? PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO A C1 COMMERCIAL.
A MOTION IS THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED IN OUR PACKET.
I WOULD SUPPORT AND NOTE THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.
>> THIS IS REZONING AND WE'LL NEXT GO TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.
>> ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL FOR A VOTE?
>> ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TREZISE, IT'S YOUR MOTION, SO I ASSUME THERE'S [OVERLAPPING].
>> IT'S ABOUT A TOWNSHIP BOARD AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.
>> THE NEXT ITEM FOR RECONSIDERATION IS ITEM 8B, ELEVATION FOR FLOODPLAIN.
[8.B. SUP #23035 – Elevation 4 Floodplain]
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>> THIS IS ALSO THE SECOND MEETING FOR THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 23035 ELEVATION FOR TO CONSTRUCT A PORTION OF A REQUIRED PATHWAY WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN.
YOU DID HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TWO WEEKS AGO.
THEY GOT TO HAVE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE FLOODPLAIN CROSSING TO PUT THE REQUIRED PATHWAY AND IF THEY DON'T GET THAT, THEY CAN'T GO OUT, THEY CAN'T ACHIEVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL [NOISE] AND CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT.
IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL 31.5 CUBIC YARD OF PHIL PLACEMENT OF 63.1 CUBIC YARD WELL, EXCUSE ME, CUT AND THEN EXCAVATION OF 31 AND A HALF CUBIC YARDS AND A PLACEMENT AT 63.1 CUBIC YARDS IN THE ADJACENT AREA OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO WE JUST RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT AND THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.
>> THIS IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE DRAIN COMMISSION.
>> A DRAIN COMMISSION OFFICE IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE SITE PLAN.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THIS PER SE, BUT AGAIN, THEY ARE IN SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO THE DRAIN COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE IS LOOKING AT THOSE.
>> THAT IS TRUE. THAT IS CORRECT.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO THINK [INAUDIBLE] OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> YOU DO HAVE A RESOLUTION IN YOUR BACK [OVERLAPPING].
>> FOR THE MOTION AND THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND, THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION ON SPECIAL USE PERMIT AT 23035 AND THE ELEVATION FOR THE FORM WORK AND THE FLOODPLAIN.
>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCRETION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT?
>> UNLIKE THE LAST ONE, THIS IS A FINAL APPROVAL SUBJECT TO EAGLE SO IT WILL NOT BE GOING INTO THE BOARD.
>> THE CHAIR VOTES YES. [NOISE] WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 8C,
[8.C. 2023 Meridian Township Master Plan]
WHICH IS THE MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP MASTER PLAN UPDATE.WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE REVIEW OF THE MASTER PLAN.
THE STAFF DISTRIBUTED THE PLAN PURSUANT TO STATE LAW AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION AUTHORIZED US TO DO SO BACK IN AUGUST.
AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU HELD THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE STATE ALSO REQUIRES.
AT THIS POINT, YOU ARE IN A POSITION, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DO SO, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.
MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP PREVIOUSLY, THE BOARD HAS TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO HAVE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITY ON THE MASTER PLAN.
THEREFORE THEY WILL HAVE THE FINAL AUTHORITY THIS YEAR AS WELL.
THEY'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE DID [NOISE] IT ON THE WEBSITE NOW.
I HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT THE FLIP BOOK FORMAT IS FAR MORE ACCESSIBLE IN A TRADITIONAL PDF.
I WILL CAVEAT THAT BY SAYING, I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE WORKINGS, [LAUGHTER] BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT IS MUCH EASIER FOR SPECIFICALLY TEXT TO AUDIO PROGRAMS TO UTILIZE THIS FORMAT THAN THE PDF.
THAT'S WHY COMMUNICATIONS WENT TO THIS FORMAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S MUCH BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS.
THEN THE ONE THING I WOULD FOLLOW UP ON IS THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, GOT READY TO PUT IT IN THERE, AND WE STARTED LOOKING INTO IT A LITTLE FURTHER AND WE REALIZED THIS MIGHT BE A BIGGER THING THAN JUST PUTTING IT IN THE MASTER PLAN.
IN FACT, AS WE RESEARCHED IT, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM AT LEAST TO WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER EXPERT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE FIELD, WAS TO ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO THE TRIBAL LEADERS IN THE AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT IS THAT, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT WE'D RECOMMEND TO
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THE BOARD APPROVAL OF THE MASTER PLAN WITH A FURTHER RECOMMENDATION, THAT THE TOWNSHIP BOARD CONSIDER DEVELOPING A LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT, FOR ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.BECAUSE AS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS DEEP ROOTS IN NATIVE AMERICAN, ESPECIALLY NOMENCLATURE AND PREVIOUSLY ICONOGRAPHY.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER ON A BROADER SCALE.
IT'S GOOD THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THIS TIME AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR HOW TO ADDRESS THIS GOING FORWARD.
>> HAS THE NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITY CONTACTED YOU?
>> THIS IS US LOOKING OUT FOR THEM?
>> YES. THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION, TO ANSWER YOU QUESTION.
AS I LOOKED INTO IT FURTHER, I REALIZE THERE'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENT PATH THAN JUST ME PUTTING SOME FANCY WORDS ON PAPER, [LAUGHTER] WHICH I CAN DO IT REALLY WELL.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
>> WE'LL BE THE JUDGES OF THAT. [LAUGHTER].
>> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE 2023 MERIDIAN FREE AND TOWNSHIP MASTER PLAN UPDATE TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD, WITH A FURTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TOWNSHIP BOARD DEVELOP A LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR USE BY ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THE FUTURE.
>> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REALLY GOOD INN RIGHT NOW TO DO THIS.
THE TIMING IS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD FOR THIS BECAUSE DIRECTOR MERCY PREVIOUSLY THIS YEAR APPLIED ON BEHALF OF THE TOWNSHIP FOR FUNDING UNDER THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE FUND, TO REMOVE THE SIGN FOR OKAMA SQUARE LOCATED AT SOUTH BOULEVARD IN OKEMOS ROAD.
YOU MAY REMEMBER THE OLD SIGN, IT WAS OLD, WOODEN SIGN THAT HAD A CARVED NATIVE AMERICAN FEMALE FACE IN IT.
OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE FUND IS TO ELIMINATE THOSE THINGS IN SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITIES.
WE APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED FUNDING.
THAT SIGN JUST GOT INSTALLED ACTUALLY, THREE DAYS AGO NOW, AND WE'LL NEED TO BE REPORTING ON THAT SOON ENOUGH.
IT'LL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AS A FUNDER OF, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ANOTHER STEP FURTHER, CAN YOU GUIDE US A LITTLE BIT?
>> I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THAT PUBLICATION STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
WE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, BUT THAT PRESENTATION IS VERY READABLE AND ATTRACTIVE.
IF YOU WOULD PASS ON AT LEAST MY THANKS TO THEM.
I THINK THE BOARD IN GENERAL WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
>> I WILL. RACHEL STONE WAS THE LEAD ON PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND PUT UP A LOT OF MY [OVERLAPPING] YOU MAY RECALL, I HAD THIS GRAND IDEA OF TRYING TO PUT THIS ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER ORIGINALLY.
[LAUGHTER] THEY INDULGED ME FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN BROUGHT ME BACK TO EARTH AND GOT ME INTO THIS FORMAT.
THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB, AND RACHEL, I WILL LET HER KNOW.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS?
>> I APPRECIATE THE FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT WAS BORN OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND THE RESEARCH THAT WENT INTO THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO GET MY THANKS FOR THAT AS WELL.
>> THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE MORE APPRECIATION.
I APPRECIATE THE TEAMWORK THAT WAS CULTIVATED HERE TO MOVE THIS SO QUICKLY.
HAVING SEEN THIS DRAG ON AND ON, YEARS PAST.
COLLECTIVELY, WE DID A GOOD JOB.
>> YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A LOT OF WORK FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
[LAUGHTER] WE'RE READY TO START TACKLING THEM.
>> THERE IS A MOTION PENDING ON THE TABLE.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED. CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER TREZISE?
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT GOES FROM HERE TO THE BOARD.
>> IT DOES. WE WILL TAKE IT TO THE BOARD IN JANUARY.
THEY ARE EXCITED TO TAKE IT UP.
>> WERE IN ITEM 9. THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION HERE.
ITEM 8C, IS THAT A REDUNDANT WITH ITEM 10 ON OUR AGENDA?
>> YES. ITEM 10 WE'LL NOW DROP-OFF OF YOUR AGENDA GOING FORWARD.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ITEM 9 IS A RE-APPROVAL OF OUR SCHEDULE FOR 2024.
[9.A. 2024 Planning Commission Schedule – Reapproval]
>> WE JUST HAD A MINOR ERROR IN THIS ONE.
WE WERE TRYING TO WORK AROUND WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE GOING TO BE PRIMARY DATES,
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I THINK, AND THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN.THE MAY AND OCTOBER DATES GOT MIXED UP ON A PREVIOUS ONE.
THESE ARE THE CORRECTED DATES I WAS ASKING YOU GUYS TO RE-APPROVE THIS THIS EVENING.
>> THE CHAIR MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED VERSION OF THE 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION SCHEDULE.
>> WHO IS THE SUPPORT? I'M SORRY.
THANK YOU. DO WE NEED A ROLL-CALL ON THIS?
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SCHEDULE? COMMISSIONER RICHARDS?
>> THE CHAIR VOTES YES. WE ARE NOW IN REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, TOWNSHIP BOARD UPDATE.
[11.A. Township Board update.]
>> THE TOWNSHIP BOARD TOOK UP THE REVIEW OF THE CV DISTRICT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WILL BE TAKING THAT FOR FOR FINAL ADOPTION IN JANUARY.
THEY ALSO REVIEWED THE REZONING AT 57 PARK LAKE AND THE ADJACENT VACANT PROPERTY.
AFTER DECEMBER 5TH MEETING, DID MOVE TO DENY THAT, CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
I WOULD ALSO BRIEFLY LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, THIS WAS AFTER YOUR LAST NAME, THE COMMUNITY SENIOR CENTER DISCUSSION THAT'S GOING ON, IT'S STILL EARLY ON.
YOU'LL START TO HEAR MORE AND MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE COMING YEAR.
THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE ONE OF THE MAJOR GOALS OF THE BOARD.
BUT COMMISSIONER SCALES GAVE YOU AN EXCELLENT UPDATE AT YOUR LAST MEETING AND WE WILL KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
LASTLY, I'LL POINT OUT TWO MORE THINGS.
THE BOARD ADOPTED RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA LICENSING STANDARDS AND OPENED A WINDOW FOR APPLICATIONS IN JANUARY.
WE WILL BE TAKING APPLICATIONS THE SECOND TUESDAY IN JANUARY THROUGH FOR TWO-AND-A-HALF WEEKS.
THEN THE APPLICATIONS WILL BE REVIEWED BY AN INTERNAL COMMITTEE BEFORE THE BOARD TAKE AN ACTION ON THEM.
ONCE THE BOARD TAKES ACTION ON THE LICENSE APPLICATION, THEN THEY NEED TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WILL COME BACK TO THIS BODY.
YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT PROBABLY IN APRIL IS MY GUESS OF NEXT YEAR.
LASTLY, THE OTHER ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE THIS EVENING IS JUST TO THANK COMMISSIONER RICHARDS.
THIS IS HIS LAST MEETING WITH US AND IT'S UNIQUE TO HAVE SOMEONE OF HIS BACKGROUND SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AFTER HIS WORK HERE.
I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER RICHARDS HAS LEFT AN INDELIBLE MARK ON THIS COMMUNITY.
I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM HIM ACTUALLY.
IT'S SAD TO SEE YOU GO, JERRY. THANK YOU.
>>THE ISSUE OF THE SENIOR CENTER, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, OR IS THAT GOING STRAIGHT TO THE BOARD?
>> I DON'T SEE A SCENARIO UNDER WHICH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT INVOLVED IN SOME WAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS YET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOCATION YET.
ONCE WE GET CLOSER TO KNOWING WHERE, MORE SPECIFICALLY, I'LL KNOW BETTER HOW.
[11.B. Liaison reports.]
>> I THINK AFTER THE LAST MEETING WE HAD A ZBA MEETING ON AN APPLICATION TO BUILD IN THE BUFFER ZONE AROUND A WETLAND LAKE LANSING.
THEY WANTED TO BUILD A CORNER, THEIR HOUSE ABOUT 13 FEET INTO A 20-FOOT BUFFER WAS THE OUTER BUFFER ON THE 40 FOOT BUFFER.
THE ZBA DENIED THAT REQUEST AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOUR THAT THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE ON THE AGENDA.
>> ANY OTHER REASON REPORTS? I ATTENDED THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETING AND THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT MONEY AND IT WENT IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER [LAUGHTER].
I COULDN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU WHAT THEY WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT HAS TO DO WITH WITH MONEY THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GET FROM THE STATE AND
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DIDN'T AND NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE UP THE LOSS.OTHER THAN THAT, I SIMPLY CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.
NO OTHER LIAISON REPORTS SO PROJECT UPDATES.
[12.A. Project Report]
>> WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT UPDATE AND NOTHING CHANGED, BUT I DIDN'T PUT IT IN THERE WHEN I PUT THE PACKAGE TOGETHER.
THIS IS ALREADY A LENGTHY PACKET AND IT SEEMS A GOOD TIME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
WHEN WE GET A NEW APPLICATION FOR A REZONING, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A LOT OF ATTACHMENTS THAT COME WITH THAT.
WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
ALL THE MATERIAL THAT COMES IN, YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET.
BUT OUR PRACTICES AT THE SECOND MEETING TO READ A SECOND STAFF REPORT, PUT A RESOLUTION AND THEN INCLUDE L THE ORIGINAL MATERIAL, THAT IN THIS CASE MADE THIS PACKET TO I COULDN'T EMAIL IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S VERY LARGE, IT'S OVEREATING PAGES.
WHAT DO YOU NEED IN A PACKET FOR THE SECOND MEETING BEARING IN MIND THAT EVERYTHING IS AVAILABLE DIGITALLY AND YOU SEE HOW FAST I CAN BRING STUFF UP?
>> MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO, SINCE MOST OF THIS COMES IN OLD AND ALL OF THIS COMES IN ELECTRONICALLY, TO PUT A LINK TO THAT PORTION OF THE PRIOR MEETING THAT IF SOMEONE IS READING THROUGH THIS GUINEA TRUCK CARED FOR THIS MEETING, THEY CAN JUST LINK BACK WITHOUT SEARCHING FOR IT.
>> THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION, I LIKE THAT.
>> THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MIGHT BE INTO THE SECOND PACKET WOULD BE THE INITIAL SUMMARY THAT STAFF PREPARE.
>> YOU WANT TO SEE THE ORIGINAL STAFF REPORT.
>> THAT SOMETIMES, THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ REPEATED IN THE SECOND ONE AND IT'S AVAILABLE THERE.
IT'S SUCCINCT INFORMATION IN GENERAL AND THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL IN SOME CASES.
>> I WOULD ADD THAT I DON'T NEED AN EMAIL ATTACHMENT PERSONALLY, HAVING A LINK TO THE DOCUMENT THAT I CAN DOWNLOAD IS AT LEAST AS USEFUL FOR ME AND LESS BURDENSOME ON MY EMAIL SERVER.
>> BUT OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY AND NEEDS AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ABOUT EMAIL ATTACHMENTS.
BUT IF THERE'S A VERSION ONLINE THAT THE PUBLIC SEES, THAT'S THE ONE I WANT TO GET I'LL GO AND GET ON ON WHATEVER DEVICE A MINE.
>> I'LL TRY THAT WITH THE JANUARY MEETING AND IN THE CURRENT APPLICATION, YOU HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TONIGHT.
THANKS, I JUST NEEDED THAT LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.
>> I THINK THE ONE CATCH TO THAT WOULD BE, IF A PARTICULAR ISSUE WAS AN ITEM OF SERIOUS DISCUSSION, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, YOU CHANGED SOMETHING? WE WOULD WANT THE AMENDED DOCUMENT.
>> ANYTHING THAT CAME IN NEW AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, OF COURSE YOU'D SEE IN THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED AS WELL.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT REDUNDANTLY PUTTING IN THE SAME INFORMATION TWICE.
>> WE'RE NOW DOWN TO PUBLIC REMARKS, ANYBODY WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON? [OVERLAPPING] WHETHER.
VERY GOOD, THANK YOU PUBLIC REMARKS ARE CLOSED.
[14. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, ANY COMMENTS? I THINK WE REALLY COVERED THAT WHEN WE COMPLIMENT THE STAFF.>> I HAVE SOME OTHER STUFF I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT.
>> GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO SUSAN MODELICA AND JULIE BREXIT AND DEREK AND DAN, I WAS UNABLE TO MAKE THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE NEW MSU LAKE LANSING.
YOU'VE EVER TRAVELED ON FRIDAY, BUT I SAW PICTURES AND IT'S WONDERFUL AND IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO WALK OR BIKE OR ANYTHING ON THAT TRAIL, IT'S ALREADY IN HEAVY USE BY PEOPLE.
IT'S PRETTIEST PARTS OF THE RECORD SHOW THAT I'M AWARE OF.
>> I'VE WRITTEN A COUPLE OF TIMES, IT IS NICE AND THE STRETCH FROM PARK LAKE OVER THE LOCAL MISS ROAD, IS ALSO GOING TO BE A VERY BEAUTIFUL RIDE.
>> ANY OTHER COMMISSION COMMENTS? SQUISHY SCALES.
>> I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK JERRY FOR HIS SERVICES.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY, BUT I'D LIKE TO SAY IT AGAIN.
I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH YOU LEAVE TWICE NOW [LAUGHTER].
>> I'M NOT TAKING IT PERSONAL, BUT YOU LEFT WHEN I JOINED THE BOARD AND YOU LEFT WHEN I JOINED THE COMMITTEE [LAUGHTER].
>> BUT NOW YOU ARE A GREAT WEALTH OF
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INFORMATION IN HISTORY AND YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT THE DOOR WITH YOU.WE APPRECIATE YOU LEAVING SOME OF IT HERE IN YOUR SECOND TIME AROUND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH JEFF FOR YOUR SERVICE.
>> IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO AN ADJOURNMENT AT THIS POINT? NO. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
[LAUGHTER]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.