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>> IT'S NOW 6:30, THE NEW STARTING TIME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP.
[1. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]
I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL, AND THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS WHO HAVE JOINED THE COMMISSION AS OF TONIGHT.
>> WELCOME, SIR. COMMISSIONER SCALES?
>> ALSO, A NEW MEMBER. WELCOME. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME AROUND THOUGH. COMMISSIONER BROOKS?
>> IT APPEARS THAT COMMISSIONER RICHARDS IS NOT YET PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM.
WE SHALL PROCEED. FIRST OF ALL,
[3. PUBLIC REMARKS]
WE HAVE A PUBLIC REMARKS SECTION.NOW WE HAVE A NOTICE FROM MS. KRAMER.
WOULD YOU WISH TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE DEALING WITH THE MASTER PLAN, SINCE THAT IS NOT A SPECIFIC ITEM OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA? I'M JUST GOING TO INVITE YOU TO MAKE YOUR STATEMENT DURING THE OPENING PUBLIC REMARKS SECTION IF YOU WISH TO JOIN US. SURE. [LAUGHTER]
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CECILIA KRAMER, RESIDENT 4560, OAKWOOD HERE IN OKHAMAS.
I'M A MEMBER OF FAITH LUTHERAN CHURCH, WHICH IS ON DOBIE ROAD.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH NEW MEMBERS ON THE BOARD TO JUST INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
I HAVE WITH ME MIKE ASHWAL BACH AND HE IS THE NEW PRESIDENT ELECT OF OUR BOARD AT THE THE CHURCH.
THE REASON THAT WE ARE INTERESTED, AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE MASTER PLAN, IS THAT OUR CHURCH HAS A REQUEST FOR A DENSITY CHANGE TO THE PROPERTY AT 4515 DOBIE ROAD, WHICH IS THE CHURCH PROPERTY, FAITH LUTHERAN.
I THINK YOU MAY KNOW OF THAT LOCATION.
WE WOULD NEED TO REQUEST THAT DURING THE COURSE OF YOUR MASTER PLAN REVIEW, THAT YOU'LL LOOK AT THE DENSITY THERE, AND SEE IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO ADJUST THAT DENSITY TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THERE'S PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH THAT ARE MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ACROSS THE ROAD ON DOBIE ROAD, AND OF COURSE, IT'S THE CHURCH PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH THERE.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME ASSISTANCE IN ADJUSTING THAT DENSITY AND HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS DURING THE COURSE OF YOUR REVIEW OF THE MASTER PLAN.
I AM AVAILABLE AROUND THE BUILDING QUITE A LOT LATELY WITH DOING SOME PART-TIME WORK HERE, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR INTERESTS IN THE MASTER PLAN.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. THANK YOU.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR ME? YES, SIR.
>> THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THE QUESTION FROM THE NEW COMMISSIONER SCALES. GO AHEAD.
>> YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT THE DENSITY, DID YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT IT GOING UP OR GOING DOWN?
>> I'M SORRY, A LITTLE BIT LOUD.
>> I'M SORRY. THE QUESTION IS, DID YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT INCREASING OR DECREASING THE DENSITY?
RIGHT NOW IN THE ZONING WORLD, IT'S LIKE RAA, BUT WE WANT IT TO MATCH MORE WITH THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.
>> NOT OFF THE TOP MY HEAD. I'M SORRY.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER PERSONS PRESENT WHO WISH TO MAKE AN ADDRESS TO THE COMMISSION? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THEN WE ARE IN TO ITEM NUMBER 4,
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE?>> MOVE BY COMMISSIONER TREZISE. A SECOND?
>> BY COMMISSIONER SNYDER. ALL IN FAVOR.
>> OPPOSED? NONE. AGENDA IS APPROVED.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 9 MEETING OF THE COMMISSION.IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES?
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>> MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL.
>> SUPPORTED BY COMMISSIONER TREZISE.
>> QUICK TYPOS WORKED ON PAGE 3, EXTRA O AND TWO AND THE OTHER MISSING QUOTE ON PAGE 5.
>> VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES? VERY GOOD. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 9 MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE SAY AYE.
AGAIN, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
COMMUNICATIONS, THERE ARE NONE.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, STAFF HAS LISTED NONE.
WE WILL MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER 8, UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
[8A. Rezoning #23-01 – 1642 Lake Court – MW6, LLC – RB, One-Family, High-Density Residential, to RCC, Multiple-Family Residential, subject to a conditional rezoning agreement]
>> GOOD EVENING. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WE HAVE NOT MET YET, MY NAME IS BRIAN SHOCKEY.
I'M THE SENIOR PLANNER ON STAFF AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT COMMUNICATE WITH YOU THE MOST.
YOU PROBABLY RECEIVED THE PACKET FROM ME EARLIER.
IF YOU RECOGNIZE MY NAME, THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM.
REGARDING THE REZONING NUMBER 23001 FOR MW6, LLC ON LAKE COURT, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO.
THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THERE WAS A DESIRE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SEE WHAT THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS AND WHAT THE SKETCH DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, THE APPLICANTS HERE ARE TO ANSWER ANY LAST MINUTE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
OTHERWISE, WE HAVE PROVIDED A RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL AS YOU INDICATED WITH YOUR STRAW POLL THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE TO GO.
I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PLOT OF LAND, WHERE IT IS, AND WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I DROVE BY AND EVERYTHING, LOOKS LIKE, THE ONLY WAY TO SUMMARIZE, IT'S BY THE ICE CREAM PLACE [OVERLAPPING].
IS THE ABANDONED LAND OR VACANT SPOT BEHIND THE ICE CREAM?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THE VACANT STORE IN THE FRONT IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
>> THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. THEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT?
>> THAT'S STILL ZONE C1, I THINK.
WHAT'S OUT THERE? C1. THANK YOU.
GETTING OLDER. THAT STILL REMAINS ZONE C1.
>> CAN WE TURN THIS ON, OR DO WE HAVE TO [INAUDIBLE]?
>> [INAUDIBLE] ERASERS, YOU LIFT UP.
[OVERLAPPING] HOLD IT LONG ENOUGH WHEN YOU TURN ON, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY IT FUNCTIONS.
>> GOOD. RIGHT BEHIND THERE, BECAUSE I SAW THAT THERE WERE PARKING SPACES.
THAT'S WHERE THAT VACANT SPOT IS, WHERE THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE. GOT IT.
>> COMMISSION MCCONNELL. IF I COULD, PARTLY LINKED TO THAT QUESTION, I THINK LAST TIME WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, WE GOT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY WE HAVE IN THE MEMO, THE REZONING, THE COLLECTION OF LOTS, PRIOR HISTORY, AND WHAT KIND OF RESIDENCES WERE THERE, AND THOSE HAVING BEEN DEMOLISHED, WHAT THEY WILL EFFECTIVELY BE REPLACED BY.
MAYBE IF THE APPLICANTS WANT TO GIVE US A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON IT, THE HISTORY WISE, I WILL FIND THAT HELPFUL FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONER.
>> SINCE WE HAVE THREE NEW COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> GENTLEMEN, I'LL ASK YOU TO IDENTIFY YOURSELVES FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, AND TELL US YOUR ADDRESS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. MY NAME IS DOMINIC LEE.
THIS IS MY PARTNER, SCOTT WHEATON, ADDRESS, 2419 SCIENCE PARKWAY.
THE PREVIOUS BUILDINGS THAT WERE ON, THAT THERE'S FIVE HOMES, THREE OF WHICH WERE VACANT.
THEY WERE BASICALLY INHABITABLE, MOLD THROUGHOUT THEM.
TWO OF THEM WERE VACANT, THREE OF THEM WERE OCCUPIED.
ONE OF THEM WAS OCCUPIED BY THE CURRENT OWNER, BACK THE PREVIOUS OWNERS FAMILY, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES WERE JUST OCCUPIED BY COMMON TENANTS.
THEY WERE ALL IN HORRENDOUS SHAPE.
HONESTLY, ONE OF THE ROOF WAS CAVING IN.
LIKE I SAID, THERE IS MOLD LITTERED THROUGHOUT ALL OF THEM.
WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY JUST RENOVATE THOSE BUILDINGS AND TRY TO KEEP THEM FOR A BIT, WHILE WE FIGURED OUT THIS PLAN.
ONCE WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THEM, WE WERE LIKE THESE BUILDINGS NEED TO BE TORN DOWN, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY, DISASTROUS.
MOST OF THEM WEREN'T EVEN ON FOUNDATION.
YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THE FLOOR AND SEE DIRT.
THE BUILDINGS WERE IN VERY ROUGH SHAPE.
>> WE WERE ACTUALLY TOLD AT ONE POINT THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN MILITARY
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BARRACKS'S THAT WE'RE OUT THERE, VERY SMALL UNITS.BUT OUR IDEA NOW GOING FORWARD IS TO CONSTRUCT SIX DUPLEXES ON THE LAND, WHICH WILL RESULT IN 12 UNITS.
OBVIOUSLY, BRINGING A BETTER LOOK TO THAT SITE AND THERE WAS PRIOR TO THIS, AND BRING IN SOME MORE PEOPLE TO DOWNTOWN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A VERY WORKABLE LOCATION, WITH A LOT OF THINGS TO DO.
SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOME NICE RESIDENCES DOWNTOWN FOR THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? YES, SIR.
>> I READ THROUGH THIS MATERIAL. I'M NEW. [OVERLAPPING]
I READ THROUGH THIS MATERIAL, AND THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE PREVIOUS RENT WAS AND WHAT THE NEW RENT WILL BE.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE NOW PAY AND WHAT WILL IT CAUSE SOMEONE NEW COMING IN?
>> YES. IN ALL HONESTY, THE PREVIOUS RUNS WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT THEY AVERAGED OUT TO BE ABOUT 350, $400, AND THAT'S IF THE PREVIOUS OWNER COLLECTED.
HE MENTIONED US, HE HASN'T COLLECTED IN MONTHS ON A FEW OF THE BUILDINGS.
THAT'S WHY HE WAS SELLING THE PROPERTIES.
THEY'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THEM OBVIOUSLY, AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, AND THEN ALSO HE JUST WAS FORGETTING TO COLLECT RENT HALF THE TIME.
ONE OF THE UNITS, THEY WEREN'T EVEN CHARGED RENT.
THEY WERE JUST LIKE, "HI, TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDING AND PAY YOUR UTILITIES AND IT'S FINE." THE OTHER TWO TENANTS WERE WORKING LOCALLY AND THEY ACTUALLY STILL LIVE LOCALLY. THEY WERE PAYING.
ONE LADY, I THINK SHE SAID SHE WAS PAYING 425 AND THE OTHER ONE IS 350 OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
THE RENTS THAT WE'RE GOING FOR ARE GOING TO BE A MARKET RATE.
WE'RE GOING TO EXAMINE THE MARKET AT THAT TIME WHAT ARE NORMAL RENTALS IN THAT AREA GOING FOR.
CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, NORMAL RENTALS ARE GOING FOR BETWEEN 1,600-2,100.
SOMETIMES WE SEE IT GO UP TO 2,200, BUT THOSE ARE USUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER END.
THEN OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS EVEN RENTALS NEARBY THAT GO EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT.
THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.
WE DON'T WANT THE RENTS TO BE ANY OVER $2,200 A UNIT.
OUR GOAL FOR THAT AREA IS TO MAKE AFFORDABLE LIVING, THAT THE COMMON MEDIAN WAGE IN THAT AREA CAN AFFORD, AND SOMETHING THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT THE MARKET RENTS ARE IN THAT AREA FROM OUR EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMON RENTS ARE IN THAT AREA ARE CURRENTLY.
>> CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT?
>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE NOW?
>> THE PEOPLE THAT DID PREVIOUSLY LIVED THERE, THEY MOVED, THEY FOUND ROOM.
WE GAVE THEM A THREE-MONTH NOTICE AND JUST SAID, "HI GUYS, WE CAN'T LET YOU LIVE HERE ANYMORE.
THIS IS THE PLAN FOR IT." THEN WE ALSO HELP THEM FIND LIVING ELSEWHERE.
>> AS WE MENTIONED, I MEAN, IT WASN'T EXACTLY SUITABLE LIVING CONDITIONS PRIOR TO US PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, ANYWAYS.
BUT THE TWO TENANTS THAT WERE NOT FAMILY RELATION TO THE PREVIOUS SELLER, WERE ON THEIR WAY OUT, ANYWAY.
THEY WERE ALL PLANNING TO MOVE OUT BECAUSE THE LIVING WAS PRETTY HARSH.
>> JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS FOR ME.
YOU SAID SIX DUPLEXES, 12, DID I GET THAT RIGHT, 12?
>> WHEN I LOOKED AT THE AUDITS RENDERING, IT LOOKED LIKE THREE BUILDINGS, IS THAT WHAT IT IS?
>> IT'S THREE FRONT AND THREE BACK.
>> IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET IT ON?
>> SURE, HOLD ON. [BACKGROUND]
>> I DIDN'T TELL HER. [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER]
>> IT IS ON THE SCREEN. I'M NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT ROTATE, BUT THAT'S LOOKING AT ONE SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
>> WHAT'S CALLED THE FRONT ELEVATION, AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THAT IS A VERY PRELIMINARY FRONT ELEVATION.
OUR ARCHITECT DREW THAT TOGETHER.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A TON OF CHANGES TO THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR, BUT WE WANTED TO AT LEAST GIVE YOU GUYS A VISUAL.
THOSE WOULD ONLY BE THREE OF THE UNITS.
THEN IF YOU DUPLICATE THAT AND PUT IT IN THE BACK OF THE LOT [OVERLAPPING]
>> ON THIS ONE, SINCE IT'S FROM THE TOP, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 BUILDINGS, EACH BEING A DUPLEX.
>> GOT IT. ALL SIX OF THOSE BUILDINGS, WILL BE RIGHT BEHIND? AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO VISUALIZE. [OVERLAPPING] ICE CREAM SHOP THERE.
>> ICE CREAM SHOP IS RIGHT HERE.
>> LAKE LANSING ROAD IS RIGHT HERE, ON THAT SIDE.
>> THEY HAVE ACCESS FROM MARSH ROAD RIGHT ONTO THE LOCAL?
>> NO. WE HAVE THE LAKE COURT RUNS RIGHT HERE, INSTEAD OF ACCESS THERE.
THEN LAKE LANSING ROAD BRINGS ACCESS TO THIS SIDE, WHICH WOULD HAVE THE PARKING LOT CURRENTLY, CORRECT.
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WE HAD RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT LAKE COURT.I WAS JUST WONDERING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF THERE ARE ANY UPDATES ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT ROAD? [LAUGHTER]
>> THE STEP FOLLOWING THE REZONING WILL BE EITHER STRAIGHT TO SITE PLAN WITH SEVERAL VARIANCES OR THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
EITHER WAY AT THAT POINT, I'M GOING TO HAVE A SITE PLAN TO REVIEW.
THE INGHAM COUNTY ROAD DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW THAT SITE PLAN AT THAT TIME.
THEY DO NOT COMMENT ON CONCEPT PLANS WITH REZONINGS.
THEY'LL LOOK AT LAKE COURT AND IF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY FOR THIS PROJECT, THEY WILL REQUIRE THEM. [NOISE]
>> LET ME ALSO POINT OUT, THIS REZONING ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR UP TO, I THINK, 34 UNITS PER ACRE [NOISE].
BUT THE APPLICANT HAS PLACED AN EXCEPTION ON THIS OR A LIMITATION TO NO MORE THAN 12 UNITS.
UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH.
BUT THEY THINK THEY CAN GET THERE WITH EITHER A PUD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE MAY SEE IT BACK, BUT IT'S LIMITING THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS TO 12.
>> I BELIEVE AT THE LAST MEETING TOO WE CONFIRMED THAT THAT LIMIT WOULD FOLLOW AND [OVERLAPPING] STAY WITH THE PROPERTY REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP. [NOISE]
>> WILL FOLLOW THE ZONING, YES.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL.
>> SINCE YOU'VE GOT THAT DRAWING UP, [OVERLAPPING] I'M JUST CURIOUS.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE UNITS, I CAN SEE THE MAIN ENTRIES GOING INTO BEDROOMS ON EITHER SIDE WITH A SHARED BATHROOM, AND THEN BEHIND THE BATHROOM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE HALLWAY THAT CONNECTS THE TWO BEDROOMS.
>> NO. THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A UTILITY CLOSET.
IT LOOKS LIKE A HALLWAY NOW, BUT WE LEFT THAT AS A ROOM. AM I CORRECT?
>> LIKE IT'S A WALK-THROUGH CLOSET?
>> [OVERLAPPING] RECTANGLE, AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RECTANGLE WAS.
>> NO. IN-BETWEEN THE DIVIDING WALL?
>> THANKS, WE'LL SEE. IN-BETWEEN THE COMMON WALL, LET'S SEE.
>> THERE'S A SQUARE AND A CIRCLE NEXT TO IT.
>> IT'S PROBABLY THE FURNACE AND THE WATER HEATER.
>> YEAH, THAT IS A [OVERLAPPING]
>> OH, I SEE, SO IT'D SERVE AS THE FURNACE FROM ONE SIDE AND WATER HEATER ON THE OTHER? [OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER].
>> GOT YOU. THAT'S INNOVATIVE.
>> IN ONE ROOM, IT CONTROLS THE FURNACE, IN THE OTHER, [LAUGHTER] WATER.
>> WHEN THEY TURN OFF THE HOT WATER, THE OTHER ONE TURNS OFF THE HEAT.
>> NO, THOSE WILL OBVIOUSLY, BE LOCKED DOORS, BUT THAT'S THE UTILITY CLOSET.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT [NOISE] THE RESOLUTION TO PROVIDE FOR THE REZONING OF THE LAND IN QUESTION.
>> IT'S 23-01, 1642 LAKE COURT, TO MOVE IT FROM ITS CURRENT RB, ONE-FAMILY HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, TO RCC, MULTIPLE-FAMILY [NOISE] RESIDENTIAL SUBJECT TO A CONDITIONAL REZONING OF NO MORE THAN 12 UNITS ON THE LINE.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE THE VOTE? NO? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S RIGHT. ROLL CALL, LET'S START AT THE BOTTOM.
COMMISSIONER RICHARDS, OH, I'M SORRY, THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER RICHARDS GOT HERE ABOUT A MINUTE-AND-A-HALF AFTER I FINISHED CALLING THE ROLL [LAUGHTER]
>> AS SOON AS YOU MAKE ME TAKE A SEAT. [LAUGHTER]
>> THE CHAIR SUPPORTS. THE MOTION IS APPROVED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL TAKE THAT ON TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD FOR FINAL ACTION.
>> THAT IS THE END OF ITEM NUMBER 8.
[9B. Resolution of Appreciation – Holly Cordill]
I'M GOING TO TAKE IT SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER TO THAT WHICH WAS PROPOSED BY THE STAFF.COMMISSIONER SCALES HAS ASKED FOR SPECIAL PERMISSION TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION OF THAT RESOLUTION. COMMISSIONER SCALES.
>> THANK YOU. AT REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION,
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THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN, INGHAM COUNTY, MICHIGAN, HELD ON THE 23RD DAY OF JANUARY AT 06:30 PM LOCAL TIME.PRESENT, ALL MEMBERS. ABSENT, NONE.
THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS OFFERED BY COMMISSIONER SCALES, AND SUPPORTED BY.
>> THANK YOU. WHEREAS HOLLY CORDILL BEGAN SERVING THE INTERESTS OF MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP IN 2011 WHEN SHE WAS APPOINTED TO THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION.
WHEREAS DURING HER 11-YEAR TENURE AS PLANNING COMMISSIONER, HOLLY HAS ABLY REPRESENTED THE INTERESTS OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITIZENS OF MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP, ALSO SERVING AS THE SECRETARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MERIDIAN HISTORICAL VILLAGE.
WHEREAS COMMISSIONER CORDILL HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO ADVANCE AND ACHIEVE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ADOPTED BY THIS COMMISSION AND THE BOARD SELFLESSLY, CONTRIBUTING VALUABLE FOCUS, PERSPECTIVE, INSIGHT, AND ENERGY TO OUR MOST CHALLENGING EFFORTS IN THE SUBSEQUENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS, USING HER BACKGROUND AS A PLANNER.
WHEREAS, ON DECEMBER 12TH, 2022, ENDED HER TENURE AS PLANNING COMMISSIONER ON THE MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN, INGHAM COUNTY, MICHIGAN, WISHES PUBLICLY TO RECOGNIZE, COMMEND, AND THANK HOLLY CORDILL FOR INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO AND IMPACTS ON THE WORK OF THIS COMMISSION AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS COMMISSION IS GRATEFUL FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVICE AND WISHES YOU WELL IN YOUR FUTURE PURSUITS.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN, INGHAM COUNTY, MICHIGAN HEREBY ADOPTS THIS TRIBUTE OF APPRECIATION TO PLANNING COMMISSIONER HOLLY CORDILL AS PRESENTED.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LOUISE. THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> THERE IS NO OPPOSITION. THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.
NOW WE GO BACK TO THE ITEM 9A WHICH IS [NOISE] THE RESOLUTION
[9A. Resolution of Appreciation – David Premoe]
OF APPRECIATION FOR COMMISSIONER DAVID PREMOE, WHO HAS ALSO LEFT THE SERVICE OF THIS COMMISSION.IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD?
>> COMMISSIONER SNYDER, PLEASE.
>> AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN, INGHAM COUNTY, MICHIGAN, HELD ON THE 23RD DAY OF JANUARY AT 06:30 PM LOCAL TIME.
PRESENT, ALL MEMBERS, ABSENT, NONE.
THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS OFFERED BY CHRISTINA SNYDER.
DO I SAY THAT? THANK YOU. SUPPORTED BY.
>> THANK YOU. WHEREAS DAVID PREMOE BEGAN SERVING THE INTERESTS OF MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP IN 2016 WHEN HE WAS APPOINTED TO THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION.
WHEREAS DURING HIS SIX YEAR TENURE IS PLANNING COMMISSIONER, DAVID HAS ABLY REPRESENTED THE INTERESTS OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITIZENS OF MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP, SERVING AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S SECRETARY AND ALSO SERVING ON THE BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS AND THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
WHEREAS COMMISSIONER PREMOE HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO ADVANCE AND ACHIEVE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ADOPTED BY THIS COMMISSION AND THE TOWNSHIP BOARD SELFLESSLY CONTRIBUTING VALUABLE FOCUS, PERSPECTIVE, INSIGHT, AND ENERGY TO OUR MOST CHALLENGING EFFORTS AND SUBSEQUENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
BRINGING HIS BACKGROUND AND CONSTRUCTION TO THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND WHEREAS ON DECEMBER 12TH, 2022, ENDED HIS TERM AS PLANNING COMMISSIONER ON THE MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN, INGHAM COUNTY, MICHIGAN, WISHES PUBLICLY TO RECOGNIZE, COMMEND AND THANK DAVID PREMOE FOR INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO AND IMPACTS ON THE WORK OF THIS COMMISSION AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS COMMISSION IS GRATEFUL FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVICE AND WISHES YOU WELL IN YOUR FUTURE PURSUITS.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CHARTER TOWNSHIP OF MERIDIAN, INGHAM COUNTY, MICHIGAN, HEREBY ADOPTS THIS TRIBUTE OF APPRECIATION TO PLANNING COMMISSIONER, DAVID PREMOE, AS PRESENTED.
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>> THANK YOU. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION FOR COMMISSIONER DAVID PREMOE. ALL IN FAVOR?
[NOISE] WHICH BRINGS US TO ITEM 9C, ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
[9C. Election of Officers]
>> YOU ARE REQUIRED BY BYLAWS TO AT A MINIMUM, HAVE A CHAIR AND A SECRETARY.
IT IS ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT YOU HAVE A VICE CHAIR IN THE EVENT THE CHAIRPERSON IS NOT ABLE TO SERVE.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL BOARD, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS.
>> THE APPOINTING COMMISSION SHOULD APPOINT THEM OUT THEMSELVES, YES.
>> WELL, LET'S TAKE IT IN ORDER.
IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR CHAIR? COMMISSIONER?
>> I'M NOMINATE MARK BLUMER FOR CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR? IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR?
>> WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE CHAIR.
>> WE CAN VOTE EACH ONE SEPARATELY.
THAT'S HOW WE DO IT AS A SLATE.
[LAUGHTER] ANY DISCUSSION OF THE NOMINATION? THERE IS NO SECOND NOMINATION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING ME TO CONTINUE AS CHAIR, SAY AYE.
>> WE DON'T NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE, DO WE?
>> THE POSITION OF VICE CHAIR.
DID YOU TELL ME THAT YOU'VE REACHED THE LIMIT?
>> YES. UNDER THE BYLAWS, I CAN SERVE AS VICE CHAIR FOR TWO YEARS ABSENT A WAIVER OF THE BYLAWS BY THE COMMISSION, AND SO SHOULD BE AN APPOINTMENT OF SOMEONE ELSE AS VICE CHAIR.
>> IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE? [LAUGHTER] I MOVE THAT WE WAIVE THE BYLAWS.
>> IF THAT DOES TAKE A ROLL CALL.
>> THAT DOES TAKE A ROLL CALL ON A TWO-THIRDS VOTE.
>> IF WE WAIVE THE BYLAWS, WILL YOU BE WILLING TO ACCEPT A CONTINUATION?
>> WE'RE NOT WASTING OUR TIME THEN.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE WAIVER OF THE BYLAWS MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR. ALL IN ROLL CALL.
>> I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE AN ORDER OF THIS.
CHAIR BLUMER VOTES TO APPROVE THE WAIVER. COMMISSIONER TREZISE?
>> THE BYLAWS HAVE BEEN WAIVED WITH RESPECT TO THE TERM LIMIT ON THE VICE CHAIR.
NOW, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIR? THE CHAIR MOVES TO NOMINATE VICE CHAIR TREZISE?
>> ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RETAINING COMMISSIONER TREZISE, SAY AYE.
>> SECRETARY IT WAS COMMISSIONER PREMOE OR WASN'T IT?
>> IT WAS COMMISSIONER PREMOE, YES.
>> SECRETARY, IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR SECRETARY OF THE COMMISSION?
>> IF I CAN SELL YOU ON THIS, YOUR NAME WILL GET TO BE IN SPECIAL PRINTS ON THE MASTER PLAN.
>> CAN I JUST GET SOME CLARITY ON THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SECRETARY PLEASE?
>> YOU ARE THE OFFICIAL SIGNER OF ANY DOCUMENTATION WE SEND OUT.
WHEN WE SEND OUT THE NOTICE OF REVIEW FOR THE MASTER PLAN, COMMISSIONER PREMOE SIGNED IT.
WHEN WE HAVE A DRAFT AND WE GO INTO THE FINAL REVIEW PERIOD, THE NEW SECRETARY'S NAME WILL BE IN NAME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> I'M NOMINATING COMMISSIONER SNYDER.
>> DOES THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN IN-PERSON OR ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES.
>> NO IT WILL NEED TO HAPPEN IN PERSON.
[OVERLAPPING] WE HAVE TO HAVE AN OFFICIAL COPY.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THE SECRETARY?
>> SHE WOULDN'T BE MOVING QUICKLY ENOUGH.
>> NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER SNYDER BEING THE NEXT SECRETARY, SAY AYE.
>> THERE IS NO OPPOSITION. ANY OTHER POSITION?
WE'RE NOW THEN ON PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS.
[9D. Planning Commission Liaison Assignments]
>> YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN ASSIGNMENTS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS THE ZBA, BECAUSE THAT IS ACTUALLY A VOTING MEMBER.
ZBA MEETS ONCE A MONTH AT MAX, HEARING APPEALS OF EITHER ADMINISTRATIVE DENIALS
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THAT WE'VE MADE A ZONING ORDINANCE OR DENIES THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS MADE.THE OTHER ROLES ARE AS FOLLOWS.
THE QUARTER IMPROVEMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH WORKS ON ISSUES RELATED TO GRAND RIVER AVENUE LARGELY.
THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH WORKS ON ISSUES RELATED TO DOWNTOWN OKEMOS.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, WHICH WORKS ON ISSUES RELATED TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL RULES AND REGULATIONS AND ORDINANCES AND THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP PERSPECTIVE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH HAS A ROLE WITH RESPECT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ATTRACTION AND INCENTIVES WITH THE TOWNSHIP.
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, WHICH WORKS ON ALL THINGS TRANSPORTATION, BUT I WILL SAY HAS BEEN MORE FOCUSED ON NON MOTORIZED TRANSPORTATION IN REZONING.
THE BROWNFIELD REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH FOCUSES ON REHABILITATION OF PREVIOUSLY CONTAMINATED IN SOME WAY SITES.
THAT I WOULD SAY IS THE MOST TECHNICAL OF THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO GET A LOT OF NUMBERS AND TECHNICAL DETAIL ON THAT ONE.
>> THAT IS ALSO A VOTING POSITION.
>> THAT IS ALSO A VOTING POSITION.
THE VOTING POSITIONS RIGHT NOW IN THEORY ARE THE ZBA AND THE BRA.
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION DOES HAVE SOME MONEY IN THE BUDGET, SO IN THEORY THAT COULD INVOLVE A VOTE IF SOMETHING CAME UP.
>> DO WE HAVE A LIST OF DATES AND TIMES THAT THEY MEET, THESE VARIOUS COMMITTEES?
>> YEAH. ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
>> I CAN TELL YOU THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MEETS IN THE DARK.
>> THAT'S JUST THE ECONOMICS DEVELOPMENT.
>> THIS TIME EVERYBODY MEETS IN THE DARK, UNFORTUNATELY.
>> IT WAS IN THE PACKET FOR LAST TIME.
I HAVE SPENT THE LAST YEAR AS A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
>> I HAVE RECENTLY BEEN APPOINTED TO THE BROWNFIELD.
I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THAT IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION.
>> I SERVE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, SO THAT'S DONE.
BUT ANYBODY IS WELCOME TO JOIN IN.
>> CAN WE HAVE SOME R3 LIKE, IS THERE AN EXPECTATION THAT ONE PERSON FROM THE COMMISSION IS ON EACH OF THESE BOARDS?
>> I WOULD SAY YES WITH RESPECT TO SPECIFICALLY THE ZBA AND THE BRA.
THE REMAINING ONES, THERE'S A SLOT FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER.
TO VARIOUS EXTENTS THEY'VE BEEN USED IN THE PAST.
BUT THE ZBA AND THE BRA ARE DEFINITE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE GET A PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
>> THE OTHERS VIEW, ESSENTIALLY, WATCH THE MEETING, MAY REPORT ON WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
BUT YOU'RE NOT A PARTICIPANT AND A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION ITSELF, OF THE BOARD ITSELF.
YOU CAN OFFER INPUT, BUT YOU DON'T VOTE.
>> BASICALLY YOU'RE SPYING. YOU TELL THEM WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND THEN YOU BRING BACK TO US SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS OF THE BOARD THAT YOU'VE BEEN OBSERVING.
>> IT IS INTERESTING TO LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT OR OUT THROUGHOUT THE TOWNSHIP AT VARIOUS SLOTS.
>> THE HOPE THEN IS THAT WE WOULD IT SO THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME REPRESENTATION ON EACH OF THESE UNITS SO THAT THEY COULD BRING BACK INFORMATION, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> THE CHAIR MIGHT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DELAY THE VOTE ON IT SO THAT THE NEWER MEMBERS IN PARTICULAR CAN GET MORE FAMILIARITY WITH THE LIST.
>> ABSOLUTELY. TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION, I JUST KNOW THAT I NEED A ZBA MEMBER BEFORE THE THIRD WEEK OF FEBRUARY SO WE CAN DELAY IT ONE MORE TIME, BUT I DEFINITELY NEED A DECISION ON THE ZBA SPECIFIC TO THE FIRST MEETING OF FEBRUARY.
>> COMMISSIONER SCALES HAS INDICATED HE WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE EDC, WHICH I HAVE SERVED ON.
I'M WILLING TO ALLOW YOU TO DO SO EARLY IN THE MORNING.
>> IF IT'S NECESSARY OR IF NOBODY ELSE IS INTERESTING, I WOULD ALSO BE WILLING TO SERVE AS A THE ZBA REP.
>> ONE IN THE MORNING, ONE AT NIGHT.
[LAUGHTER] THEY DON'T MEET THAT OFTEN.
>> THEY DON'T MEET THAT REGULARLY.
>> THEY DO NOT. THEY MEET AT MOST ONCE A MONTH.
BRA IS ACTUALLY THE MOST, FRANKLY, IRREGULAR BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON PROJECTS.
>> TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS EVERY OTHER MONTH.
>> MEETS EVERY OTHER MONTH. THAT'S RIGHT.
>> DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF THE DDA HAS SOLVED ITS QUORUM?
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>> I DO NOT, BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT INFORMATION AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND WE CAN MAKE THIS OFFICIAL.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF TO REPUBLISH THE LIST OF AVAILABLE SEATS.
>> INCLUDING THOSE THAT REQUIRE A MEMBER.
>> IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER TREZISE FOR THE ZBA, SINCE THAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL DECISION THAT HAS TO BE MADE AT THIS ENTIRE LIST.
>> SURE. COMMISSIONER TREZISE AGREES WITH THAT.
>> IT SHOULD REQUIRE A VOTE ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
>> YES, IT IS. I DO NEED TO VOTE ON THAT ONE.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IT SOUNDS AS IF WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS FOR EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE CIA, CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT AUTHORITY THAT COMMISSIONER CORDILL WAS SERVING ON.
I HAVE ALWAYS DECLINED THESE BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER WILLING MEMBERS AND MY WORK SCHEDULE DOESN'T REALLY MAKE IT FEASIBLE, SO IF EVERYBODY IS OKAY, IF EITHER OF OUR TWO NEW MEMBERS WANT THAT ONE, I'M NOT GOING TO STAY THEY ARE IF ANYBODY DOES, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO JUST DO THIS TONIGHT UNLESS YOU'D THINK THAT GET IT ALL DONE IN HAVE.
>> IS CIA THE ONLY ONE THAT'S AVAILABLE?
>> I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SIMILARLY PUT OUT THERE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
BEING THAT THERE ARE SEVEN BOARDS AND NINE MEMBERS HERE, IT IS SIMILARLY, IT'S HARD FOR ME WITH MY WORK.
IT'S VERY HARD. I DO APPRECIATE WHAT I LEARNED IN THOSE MEETINGS, SO I DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE I'M TRYING TO SHIRK RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MEETINGS.
>> I AM INTERESTED IN TRANSPORTATION.
>> I BELIEVE THE CIA IS ALSO HAVING A QUORUM, IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> THE DDA HAS BEEN HAVING A LOT OF QUORUM.
>> I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THE CIA IS GOING TO GET A WHOLE LOT MORE INTERESTING THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY MIGHT END UP WITH MONEY ALL OF A SUDDEN.
>> I'M ACTUALLY REALLY INTERESTED IN THE CIA.
>> I THINK THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR ISSUE THEN.
>> THERE WE GO. WE'LL FOLLOW UP IN THE NEXT PACKET WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE'S STILL MOTION THOUGH?
>> WE DO. YES, PLEASE. SORRY. I APOLOGIZE.
>> COULD WE AMEND THE MOTION TO BE THAT SLATE?
>> WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT?
>> AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, YES.
>> I'LL TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME. THE CHAIR VOTES, YES. VICE CHAIR TREZISE?
>> VERY GOOD. THAT SLATE IS APPROVED.
>> THANK YOU. YOU'LL START SEEING EMAILS FROM VARIOUS STAFF MEMBERS, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO RELAY ALSO TO THE WAY THAT COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL IS STILL ON ENVIRONMENTAL AND WE'LL GET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR CLARK IN CONTACT WITH MR. BROOKS AND MR. SCALES.
>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY DO THEY MEET IN DIFFERENT PLACES OR WAS IT HERE?
>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. GENERALLY, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING IN THIS ROOM FOR ALL THESE NOW.
>> TRANSPORTATION MEETS HERE. IT USED TO BE THE FIRE STATION.
>> WE MOVE TRANSPORTATION BACK, THAT WAS THE ONE I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER REAL QUICK.
>> JUST LOOKING AT THIS LIST AT THE TIME AND DATE OF THE FIRST MEETING OF THE EDC, I DO HAVE A CONFLICT, BUT I WILL MAKE THE REST [LAUGHTER] FOR THE RECORD.
>> ALL RIGHT THEN. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THAT ISSUE?
>> ITEM NUMBER 10 OF THE AGENDA MASTER PLAN UPDATE. THERE APPEARS TO BE NONE.
[10. MASTER PLAN UPDATE]
>> NO. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF OUR TWO NEXT AGENDAS WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL HAVE IT AS A WORK SESSION TO HASH OUT SOME GOALS AND OBJECTIVES WITH THE BOARD.
WE'VE GOT A FAIR BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE PROVIDED ALONG THE WAY.
STAFF IS STARTING TO PUT THAT INTO ACTUAL LANGUAGE, SO WE WILL START TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN FEBRUARY AND STILL ON TRACK ROUGHLY TO GET THIS THING DONE THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 11 OF THE AGENDA, TOWNSHIP BOARD UPDATE.
[11A. Township Board update.]
>> THE TOWNSHIP BOARD MOST RECENTLY APPOINTED THREE MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
[LAUGHTER] THEY ALSO DID APPROVE THE DAYCARE DEFINITIONS CHANGE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED TO THEM,
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AND THERE WAS A THIRD ITEM THAT I AM QUICKLY PULLING UP BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER.INITIAL DISCUSSION IS UP FOR DISCUSSION TOMORROW NIGHT, SO HOPEFULLY THAT LONG PROCESS IS ALMOST TO A COMPLETION.
COULD YOU SEND A COPY OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE TO THE EDC? THEY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS IN IT IN OUR LAST MEETING.
DO YOU HAVE THE LIAISON REPORTS? THE DDT AGAIN, DID NOT MEET KRISHNA WAS THERE.
>> THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MET LAST WEEK.
JUST A COUPLE OF NOTABLE ITEMS OF NOTE, THE TOWNSHIP RECEIVED HONORABLE MENTIONED FOR THE BICYCLE FRIENDLY APPLICATION, AND IT CAME WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT FEEDBACK THAT WOULD INFORM US IF WE WANTED TO IMPROVE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT SPIN SCOOTERS, THE COMPANY THAT SUPPLIES THOSE IN EAST LANSING IS LOOKING TO MOVE WESTWARD INTO THE TOWNSHIP A BIT.
THEN DIRECT OUR OPSOMMER GAVE SO MUCH OF A DETAILED REPORT ON VARIOUS PROJECT UPDATES.
I FEEL LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW HE HOUSES SO MUCH INFORMATION INSIDE HIS BRAIN. [LAUGHTER] TRULY.
[LAUGHTER] BUT MORE CONSTRUCTIONS COMING ON OKEMOS ROAD OVER BY THE CN RAILROAD BRIDGE.
THAT'LL BE APRIL THROUGH JULY. LET'S SEE.
I GUESS SOMETHING ELSE TO NOTE, THE MSU LAKE LANSING PATHWAY THAT THE FIRST PHASE OF IT, WHICH WE DISCUSSED WITHIN PLANNING COMMISSION.
BUT THE FIRST THING IT SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY OCTOBER OF 2023.
>> ACTUALLY I GOT AN UPDATE ON THAT.
THEY ARE OPENING ACTUALLY, BOTH PHASES DONE.
PHASE 2 APPEARS TO BE SLIGHTLY EASIER ON THE ENGINEERING THAN EXPECTED.
THEY ARE PUTTING THEM BOTH OUT A BIT.
>> WE HAD NOTHING TO REPORT THIS MONTH, SO WE'LL GET TO AN UPDATE NEXT MONTH BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW THINGS FLOATING AROUND.
>> THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THAT THERE ARE
[13. PUBLIC REMARKS]
NO FURTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE FOR PUBLIC REMARKS.IS THERE ANY GENERAL COMMENTARY FOR ANY THE COMMISSIONERS? I WOULD ASK THAT THE NEW COMMISSIONERS INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
TELL US YOUR NAME, WHERE YOU WORK.
>> [INAUDIBLE] THE PUBLIC. [LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL START. MY NAME IS JAMES CURTIS JUNIOR.
I'VE BEEN IN MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN 20 YEARS NOW.
I CAME TO THIS AREA AS A REPORTER.
STATE JOURNAL YEARS AND YEARS AGO AND MOVED INTO STATE GOVERNMENT.
NOW I AM A COMMUNICATIONS CONSULTANT FOR MESA, WHICH IS RIGHT IN EAST LANSING.
I'VE THREE BOYS AND A WIFE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE.
>> WELCOME, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
I MOVED TO THIS COMMUNITY FROM OHIO IN 2010 AND HAVE LIVED ALL OVER THE LANSING AREA.
THEN MY WIFE AND I DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO RAISE A FAMILY.
WE MOVED TO OKHAMAS AND BOUGHT OUR FIRST HOUSE AND THE OTTAWA HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2017.
I'M A DATA SCIENTIST IN A COMPANY CALLED VANISHER.
I WORK REMOTELY. I'M AT MY HOUSE A LOT.
[LAUGHTER] I DO STUFF IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST OF ALL, I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE AND BE A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION THEM FOR TWO.
I SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, I WAS CHIEF THERE FOR 15 YEARS, BEGAN MY LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER AS A DETROIT POLICE OFFICER THEN A CONSERVATION OFFICER AND THEN THE PREVIOUS POSITION THAT I RETIRED FROM.
AFTER THAT, I TAUGHT AT SAGINAW VALLEY STATE UNIVERSITY, TAUGHT POLITICAL SCIENCE THERE.
I WAS APPOINTED AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER IN 2011 FOR MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP.
I WAS APPOINTED AS A ROW COMMISSIONER FOR MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP BOARD, FOR INGHAM COUNTY.
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THEN I WAS ELECTED TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD HERE AT MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP IN 2012.I SERVED FOUR YEARS ON THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.
I HAVE A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I HAVE A MASTER OF SCIENCE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.
I'M JUST HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT I LOVE AND THAT I LIVE IN. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS?
>> I JUST WANTED TO MENTION A CONVERSATION THAT COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL HAD A SIDEBAR RECENTLY ABOUT THE CONCERNS AS WE LOOK TO THE REVISING OF THE MASTER PLAN, CONCERNS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I THOUGHT THAT COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL HAD A FABULOUS IDEA ABOUT JUST DIGGING INTO MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC SERVANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHOSE SALARIES MAYBE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD LIVING IN EVEN PERHAPS ONE OF THE DUPLEXES IN THE PROJECT THAT WE WERE JUST LISTENING TO TODAY.
I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MASTER PLAN, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO BE COGNIZANT OF JUST WHAT THAT MIDDLE-INCOME LOOKS LIKE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND ENDED FAR RANGING.
RANGE. I SHOULD MENTION, I WAS LOOKING AT THE TOWNSHIP, DIFFERENT CAREERS THAT ARE POSTED AND THEY DO PROVIDE SALARIES.
LET'S SEE, A PARAMEDIC OR FIREFIGHTER WOULD BE HIRED ON FULL-TIME AT ALMOST 50,000 DOLLARS A YEAR AND THEN AFTER FOUR YEARS, BE MAKING 68,000 DOLLARS A YEAR POLICE OFFICER AT 52,000.
I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO COMPARE THAT TO WHAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR OUR TEACHERS HERE IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I HAVE A KEEN EYE TOWARDS THAT BEING AN EDUCATOR MYSELF THOUGH NOT FOR HAZLETT AND THE STARTING SALARY FOR SOMEBODY ON THE FIRST STEP.
FIRST-YEAR TEACHER GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE RIGHT NOW IS $37,664.
[LAUGHTER] I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD BECAUSE OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY SERVE. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED A SECOND FOR THAT.
[LAUGHTER] ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF?
>> CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION ACTUALLY?
>> FOR THE MASTER PLAN AS WE MOVE INTO THIS YEAR, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD TALK THROUGH THE EXPECTATIONS IN THAT PROCESS AND MAYBE EVEN MAP IT OUT BROADLY.
I KNOW WE'RE STILL A WAYS AWAY FROM THAT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT SCHEDULING AND JUST THINKING ABOUT MY TIME COMMITMENTS AND HOW IT MIGHT BEST BE USEFUL IN THAT PROCESS.
>> WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY FEEDING THE COMMISSION INFORMATION SINCE ABOUT OCTOBER.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT JUST ABOUT ANY PERK THAT WE'VE PUT OUT, THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING TOWARDS THE END ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN.
WE DID AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHITE PAPER AT ONE POINT, WE'VE SENT OUT COPIES OF ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE PUBLIC, WE PUT OUT A PAPER ON THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY, AND ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IT GOES IN THE ONES WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
THE EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULD ASK OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE INTO TRYING TO FINALIZE SOME GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, IS PROVIDE US WITH YOUR HONEST FEEDBACK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S GOING INTO THE DOCUMENT.
IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC IDEAS THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED IN THERE, LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THE DEMOGRAPHIC BACKGROUND AND THE UPDATING THE MAPS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WHAT WE NEED IS YOUR HONEST FEEDBACK, WE NEED YOU TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE TO PROVIDE US WITH YOUR HONEST FEEDBACK BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY TWO, THREE PIECES HERE THAT WE NEED.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET FEEDBACK ON THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES BECAUSE THAT FUNCTIONALLY GUIDES US FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 TO 20 YEARS.
THE ACTUAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT EARLIER BECAUSE WE DID A PRETTY MAJOR OVERHAUL OF THAT IN 2017, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND ANY MAJOR CHANGES TO THAT, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT WE NEEDED THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON.
THEY'RE USUAL SUSPECTS, RIGHT IN-BETWEEN DEVELOPMENTS OR RIGHT ON
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THE EDGE OF ONE DEVELOPMENT BUT BEFORE YOU GET TO A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT DOES THAT TRANSITION LOOK LIKE? THE CHURCH IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF THAT ACTUALLY.THE THIRD PIECE IS THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY, WE HAVE ONE OF THE ONLY URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARIES IN THE STATE AND I AM OF THE OPINION, IF YOU DO NOT REVIEW IT REGULARLY, IT OPENS US UP TO POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
WE NEED THE FEEDBACK ON THAT AND WE WILL RECOMMEND WHAT SHOULD BE LIKELY A RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGE.
THE MAJORITY OF IT IS PRETTY FINE, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SPOTS WHERE IT CUTS A PROPERTY IN HALF.
WELL, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT, YOU CAN'T HAVE HALF OF IT IN AND HALF OF IT OUT, THAT'S JUST GOING TO CAUSE US PROBLEMS IN THE LONG RUN.
>> WHAT'S AN URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY?
>> FUNCTIONALLY WHAT IT IS, IS IT IS A MAP TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT JUST OUTLINES WHERE THE TOWNSHIP IS WILLING TO PROVIDE SEWER AND WATER TO.
THAT'S AT ITS BASE, WHAT IT IS.
LARGELY, IT COMES DOWN FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE TOWNSHIP, ROUGHLY, CUTS DOWN AROUND BY HESSLE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN HEADS SOUTH, DOES A COUPLE OF JOGS, AND THEN WHEN IT GETS TO GRAND RIVER, MOST PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHERE IT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GRAND RIVER, IT FOLLOWS THE DEVELOPMENT.
EVERYTHING TO THE EAST OF THAT, THERE IS NO INTENTION FOR THE TOWNSHIP TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND IT IS INTENDED TO REMAIN RURAL RESIDENTIAL, LARGE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, IF DEVELOPED AT ALL.
>> YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL DOCUMENTS AND I'M CURIOUS, COULD YOU SEND THOSE TO US?
>> ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL GET THOSE OUT TO YOU TOMORROW.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY ALONG THOSE LINES, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION HERE.
STAFF INTRODUCED THE URBAN SERVICE BOUNDARY AND SHOWED US THOSE LITTLE TRICKY BITS IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE NEARLY THE GRASP OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHITE PAPER WHICH I SAW AND SKIMMED, BUT I HAVEN'T REALLY DELVED INTO SO I HOPEFULLY CAN SET ASIDE TIME TO REALLY GET OUR TEETH INTO THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EASY ONE.
IF WE CAN BLOCK OUT SOME TIME TO WORK ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE BECAUSE I'M BRAND NEW BUT, IS THERE A TIME FRAME FOR THE MASTER PLAN LIKE WHEN WE'RE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED OR HAVE IT FINISHED.
>> THE STATE REQUIRES THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS, YOU AT LEAST DO A REVIEW.
THAT WAS 2022 SO WE STARTED IN 2022, SO WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT.
I SAID, IT'S NOT LIKE A PENALTY, THE PROBLEM BECOMES, IF WE GOT SUED AND SOMEONE LOOKED AT OUR PLAN AND IT WAS 15 YEARS OLD, WELL, WE WOULD NOT BE IN GOOD SHAPE THEN.
THE PLAN UPDATED IN 2017 WAS MUCH OLDER, SO WE'RE BACK ON SCHEDULE NOW.
WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE A RELATIVELY MINOR UPDATE BECAUSE ONE; THEY JUST DID A COMPLETE OVERHAUL AND TWO; WITH TWO YEARS OF COVID, SO FUNCTIONALLY WE LOST 36-40 MONTHS OF ANY REAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWNSHIP.
FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE LAY IT OUT ROUGHLY 6-9 MONTH PROCESS STARTING IN OCTOBER TO HAVE THE PLAN ADOPTED SO FRANKLY, WE DON'T GET BOGGED DOWN INTO SOME OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE WE MAY GET TO THE POINT IN THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS STILL A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC AND SO WE PUT A PIN IN IT, IT BECOMES ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS AND THEN WE GET THE PLAN ADOPTED AND WE CIRCLE BACK AND START WORKING ON HOUSING PLAN SO THAT WE CAN STILL GET THE BULK OF THE THINGS OUT THERE AND WE CAN THEN FOCUS ON THOSE IMPORTANT TOPICS.
>> BUT THE GOAL IS TO HAVE US COMPLETE THIS MASTER PLAN BY JULY OF THIS YEAR?
>> YEAH, HOPEFULLY BEFORE, BUT THAT'S THE OUTSIDE OF WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.
JUST ONE LAST PIECE I SHOULD ADD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP IS A RECOMMENDING BODY.
THE TOWNSHIP BOARD IS ULTIMATELY WHO ADOPTS THE PLAN, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
ONE IS; WHEN WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, CAN WE JUST JUMP IN? OR DO WE NEED TO LIKE.
>> TECHNICALLY, I'M SUPPOSED TO APPROVE YOUR SPEAKING AND ALSO I'M SUPPOSED TO STATE YOUR NAME ON THE RECORD.
>> ZACK REALLY APPRECIATES IT WHEN YOU STATE YOUR NAME ON THE RECORD.
>> THE PERSON WHO'S KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON, KNOWS WHO MADE WHAT MOTION AND WHO SAID WHAT.
>> GO AHEAD, WE GOT ANOTHER ONE.
>> MY QUESTION IS; SO I KNOW THAT 2017, YOU'RE DOING MINOR REVISIONS HOPEFULLY BUT WITH THE PANDEMIC AND ITS ALTERATIONS TO OUR GENERAL ECONOMY, IS THAT FACTORING IN TO YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING?
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>> I THINK YOU WILL LIKELY SEE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ABOUT KEEPING UP TO SPEED ON WHAT COVID HAS DONE TO US.
I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE WHAT MIGHT BE COMING IN SOME CASES, BUT WE'RE SLOWLY STARTING TO SEE HOMEBUILDING AND COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION AND GET BACK ON TRACK AND THERE'S NOT AS MANY DELAYS IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR OUR OFFICE CLIENTS AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ANSWER YET.
YES, THERE WILL BE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE TO HELP US DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE KNOW A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> JUST READ AN ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES.
TODAY OR YESTERDAY, I FORGOT NOW.
THAT BECAUSE OF EFFORTS TO CONTROL INFLATION, BANKS ARE RAISING MORTGAGE RATES TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S SERIOUSLY AFFECTING HOUSING, RESIDENTIAL VALUES.
THERE HAS BEEN A NATIONWIDE DROP IN HOUSING VALUES OR HOUSING PRICES OF 17 PERCENT SO FAR.
THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL AFFECT THE GROWTH OF THE TOWNSHIP.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING COUPLE OF YEARS.
>> I WANTED TO ALSO ASK, I KNOW THAT LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN THIS TIME AROUND, IT'S JUST MINOR REVISIONS HOW I'VE UNDERSTOOD IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CORRECT, I THINK IT IS.
BUT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE SURVEY, IT'S JUST OPEN-ENDED, SEND US YOUR THOUGHTS.
I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY PLAN TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY WITH MAYBE MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW OR UNDERSTAND WHAT A MASTER PLAN IS.
MAYBE SO THAT WE COULD GET FEEDBACK THAT IS MORE CATEGORIZED AND JUST DATA THAT'S EASIER TO READ, IT'S JUST A LOT OF, WHAT'S THE WORD HERE? THE DATA PERSON, WHAT TYPE OF DATA IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE WRITING PARAGRAPHS. [LAUGHTER]
>> NOT QUANTITATIVE. [LAUGHTER]
IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND TRY AND GET SOME MORE TARGETED INFORMATION.
>> I WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE.
>> SO FAR, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF PARKS.
WE GET A LOT OF PARKS FEEDBACK FOR WHATEVER REASON.
PARKS MASTER PLAN DIDN'T GET AS MUCH [INAUDIBLE].
>> ONE MORE QUESTION, SIR OR ACTUALLY A REQUEST.
>> I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE PREVIOUSLY OF THE CURRENT WORKINGS OF THE MASTER PLAN, SO THAT INFORMATION WILL BE RECORDED.
IS THERE A WAY THAT MAYBE SOMEONE FROM YOUR STAFF COULD JUST LIST THE DATES OF THE MEETINGS WHERE THOSE DISCUSSIONS TOOK PLACE AND GET THAT TO THE NEW MEMBERS AND WE COULD JUST GO RIGHT ON THE COMPUTER AT OUR LEISURE AND ENTERTAIN THE DISCUSSIONS AND BE BETTER PREPARED TO HELP FACILITATE THE WORK SO THE MASTER PLAN?
>> ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL INCLUDE THAT WITH THE INFORMATION WE SEND OUT.
>> I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SEND IT OUT TO ALL COMMISSIONERS.
[LAUGHTER] WE DON'T HAVE TO GO PROSPECTING.
[OVERLAPPING] YOU'RE NOT THAT GOOD.
>> WE ONLY GOT ONE DISTRIBUTION LIST.
>> ANYTHING FURTHER? [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE READY TO ADJOURN, ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNMENT, SAY AYE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FOLKS AND WELCOME TO OUR NEW MEMBERS.
>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.