[6B. Rezoning #21040 (Okemos IL-AL Investors, LLC), rezone two parcels totaling approximately 9.07 acres located at 1510 & 1560 Grand River Avenue from C-2 (Commercial) to RA (Single Family-Medium Density).]

AND OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS A PROPOSED REZONING NUMBER OKEMOS IL-AL INVESTORS, LLC TO REZONE TWO PARCELS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 9.7 ACRES, LOCATED AT 1510 AND 1560 GRAND RIVER AVENUE, FROM C2 COMMERCIAL TO RA SINGLE FAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY.

I WOULD OPEN THIS HEARING AT EIGHT P.M.

AND TURN IT OVER TO STAFF TO GIVE US AN OUTLINE AT THIS TIME.

KEITH IS GOING TO SHARE HIS SCREEN AGAIN FOR YOU.

AND SINCE THIS WAS ALREADY MENTIONED WITH THE REZONING IS IT IS A REZONING FOR APPROXIMATE NINE ACRES FROM C2 COMMERCIAL TO RA SINGLE FAMILY.

AGAIN, THE PROCESS FOR TONIGHT FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THIS.

CURRENTLY, THE INFORMATION FOR THIS REZONING IS UNDER THE MEETING TAB ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE TOWNSHIP WEB PAGE.

AFTER TONIGHT, IT'LL BE MOVED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECTION ON THE WEBSITE.

AGAIN, WHAT WE WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS NOT BASED LIKE WE SAW WITH THE CAR WASH SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD BE CONCERNED OR TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ANY OF THE USES THAT IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED TO RA WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THE SITE.

THE APPLICANT, THOUGH, HAS OFFERED A VOLUNTARY CONDITION, I WON'T READ THE WHOLE THING, BUT BASICALLY IT'S IF THEY DON'T PURCHASE THE PROPERTY BY SEPTEMBER 19, 2022 THEN THIS REZONING WOULD REVERT BACK TO C2.

SO THE INTENT IS THAT THEY WOULD BE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR TO CONTINUE AT A RA SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

CONDITIONS RUN WITH THE PROPERTY.

SO IF IT WAS REZONED RA AND IN THE FUTURE WAS SOLD, THAT CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WOULD ALSO BE SUBJECT TO THIS CONDITION.

THE TOWNSHIP BOARD CAN AMEND OR REMOVE THE CONDITION THAT'S OFFERED AS PART OF THIS REZONING. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HAVE THE ABILITY DURING THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO IF YOU FELT THE CONDITION WAS INAPPROPRIATE, YOU CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP FOR THIS REZONING, AGAIN, ABOUT NINE ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GRAND RIVER AND SO GRAND RIVER IS ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY RUNNING EAST AND WEST. AND THEN POWELL ROAD IS THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY OF POWELL ROAD RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH ON THIS SITE.

FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM 2017 SHOWS THAT IN THE COMMERCIAL CATEGORY.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE PINK COLOR, THE YELLOW AND THE LIGHT YELLOW THAT SURROUNDS IT IS RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S SINGLE FAMILY CATEGORIES AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GRAND RIVER THAT DARKER TAN YELLOW COLOR THAT THAT INDICATES MULTIPLE FAMILY.

IT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT THIS PROPERTY HAD BEEN REZONED IN 2015 FROM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO C2 COMMERCIAL THE MASTER PLAN IN 2005 WHILE THAT REZONING HAPPENED IN 2015.

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SHOWED THIS IN A OFFICE CATEGORY.

AND WHEN WE UPDATED THE MASTER PLAN IN 2017, THE MASTER PLAN WAS CHANGED TO REFLECT THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

C2 IS THE CURRENT ZONING THAT'S A MINIMUM OF FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AREA, ONE HUNDRED FEET OF FRONTAGE, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS RA SINGLE FAMILY, IS A MINIMUM OF 80 FEET A LOT WIDTH AND TEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF LOT AREA.

SO. AND THERE'S THE ZONING MAP YOU'LL SEE THAT'S THE C2 ZONING IN THE AREA.

IT'S ON THIS PROPERTY AND IT ALSO GOES EAST ACROSS FROM POWELL DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ZONING.

YOU HAVE RA ZONING DIRECTLY.

THAT'S THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.

AND THEN FURTHER NORTH, IF YOU REMEMBER WHERE THE RV IS, THAT WAS THE REZONING THAT HAPPENED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS KNOWN AS THE GRAND RESERVE PROJECT.

AND THAT WAS REZONED FROM RA TO RD AND THEN ACROSS DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE RC AT MULTIPLE FAMILY, THAT'S 14 UNITS PER ACRE.

THERE ARE TWO WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY, THOSE WERE IDENTIFIED OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME AND MOST RECENTLY IN 2019, WHEN THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT PROPOSED FOR THE SITE, IN [INAUDIBLE] AND USE PERMIT WAS ISSUED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS FOR CAR DEALERSHIP.

AS MENTIONED, BOTH OF THESE WETLANDS OR WETLAND A IT'S IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE SITE. WETLAND B IS IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE.

EVEN THOUGH THOSE PROPERTY OF THE WETLANDS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL, THEY'RE ALL WITHIN 500 FEET OF A DRAIN.

THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE REGULATED NOT ONLY BY THE TOWNSHIP, BUT THEY ARE REGULATED BY EGLE. AND THIS IS THE MAP YOU CAN SEE OF THE WETLANDS.

AGAIN, THOSE WERE MORE RECENTLY DELINEATED FOR THEIR LOCATION BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A WETLAND USE PERMIT.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION AS THE UNRUH DRAIN TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST AND THEN THE DANIELS DRAIN TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH.

THERE WAS A TRAFFIC REPORT DONE FOR THIS REZONING, AND THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

AGAIN, THEY COMPARED A SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST HIGHEST USE OF TRAFFIC GENERATION THAT IS IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT FOR C2 THE SENIOR LIVING, AS IT WAS INDICATED IN THE APPLICATION.

THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DO WHAT WE CALL A SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY, WHICH WOULD BE ACCOMMODATION OF NOT ONLY INDEPENDENT LIVING, BUT ASSISTED LIVING.

AND THEN THERE COULD BE A COMPONENT OF SOME TYPE OF MEMBER CARE OR OTHER CONVALESCENT TYPE CARE FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

AND AGAIN, THEY OUTLINED THE TWO LAND USE CODES.

TYPICALLY, THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS GENERATE A VERY LOW AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

THE ONE THING THAT WAS USED IN THE STUDY IS THEY USED ADJACENT STREET.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER USING AS PART OF A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

WE WOULD LOOK AT THE STREET IN WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GRAND RIVER AVENUE.

SO WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR PEAK HOUR, WHETHER IT'S A.M.

OR P.M. FROM THAT ACCESS ON GRAND RIVER AVENUE? AND THEN AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL THE USES THAT ARE EITHER PERMITTED BY RIGHT OR THE CURRENT ZONING, IF IT REMAINS IN C2 FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PORTION OF THE RA,

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THERE ARE NO ISSUES OR TYPES OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED AS NONRESIDENTIAL USES BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT CHURCHES, DAYCARE CENTER.

THE SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY A SPECIAL USE IN THE RA ZONING DISTRICT.

AND AGAIN, IT IS MENTIONED AS FAR AS THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED IN THEIR APPLICATION.

IT DOES THE ONE THING FOR SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY, THERE IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT THE LOT HAVE 10 ACRES.

AS IT WAS MENTIONED, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE OVER NINE ACRES.

AND AGAIN, THEY OFFER A CONDITION THAT IF THEY DO NOT PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THAT IT WOULD REVERT BACK TO C2.

AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THE RA DOES ALLOW FOR OTHER TYPES OF NON RESIDENTIAL USES, SO IF IT WAS REZONED, THE RA COULD BE ANY OF THOSE CHURCHES, HOSPITAL, SOME TYPE OF CARE FACILITY OR CARE CENTER.

AND THEN UNDER THE RA ZONING, THERE'S MULTIPLE TYPES OF USES.

IT COULD BE A PLATTED SUBDIVISION, IT COULD BE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

IT COULD BE A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED FOR THE DENSITY RANGE.

BECAUSE THIS IS NINE ACRES UNDER.

IF THEY JUST DIVIDED THE PROPERTY FOR WHAT WE CALL METES AND BOUNDS SO FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO BE BUILT ON IT, THE MOST THEY COULD DO IS IT'S LESS THAN 10 ACRES IS ONLY FOUR PARCELS.

WE SORT OF LOOKED AT WHAT THE HIGHEST NUMBER.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE DOING AN ESTIMATE.

WE LOOKED AT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND BECAUSE OF THE WETLANDS AND ALLOWING FOR SOME OF THAT DENSITY OF THE WETLAND AREA TO BE COUNTED FOR THE TOTAL DENSITY OF THE SITE, WE ESTIMATED APPROXIMATELY 40 UNITS COULD BE BUILT IF IT WAS DONE AS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS BASED ON OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS TOPOGRAPHY, SOIL, UTILITY LAYOUTS.

THOSE MAY LIMIT THE BUILDABLE AREA.

BUT THIS WAS JUST TO GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY IN THE RA CATEGORY.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.

YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF YOU CHOOSE AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

IF YOU HAVE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU WANT EITHER STAFF OR THE APPLICANT TO BRING BACK TO YOU, YOU CAN LEAVE IT ON FOR DISCUSSION.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC TIME FRAME THERE WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO ACT ON THIS PROJECT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE REZONING WE DON'T SEND OUT ADDITIONAL NOTICES AFTER THIS PUBLIC HEARING, ANYBODY CAN CONTACT STAFF IF THEY WANT AN UPDATE OF WHERE THIS IS IN THE PROCESS AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

MR. BLUMER. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF A CONDITIONAL REZONING.

ONCE WHEN IT'S REZONED IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE ZONING BOARD, ISN'T THAT PERMANENT, CAN THEY JUST WISH IT TO GO BACK.

WELL, AS A CONDITION, IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE OFFERING A CONDITION WITH A TIME FRAME ON IT, BASICALLY, IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE THE PURCHASE OF IT, THEN IT WOULD REVERT BACK TO C2.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT OUT OF THE NORM.

IF YOU REMEMBER, I MENTIONED THE GRAND RESERVE REZONING THAT PARCEL TO THE NORTH.

THEY CONDITIONED ON TIMING OF TWO YEARS ON THAT PROJECT TO HAVE THAT SUBMITTED AND IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING IT WITHIN TWO YEARS IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT SUBMITTED, THEN IT REVERTS BACK TO RA.

THE OTHER THING IS THE TOWNSHIP BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO PLACE A TIME LIMIT ON A REZONING. SIMILAR TO THAT, IF YOU REMEMBER, IS THE COPPER CREEK UP IN HASLETT.

WHEN THAT CAME THROUGH ORIGINALLY THE FIRST TIME AS REZONING AND THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE

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DEVELOPED AS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THE BOARD PUT A TIME LIMIT ON IT THAT IT HAD TO BE STARTED WITHIN SO MANY YEARS AFTER THE REZONING.

AND IN THAT CASE, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT AND THEY HAD TO COME BACK FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH WE NOW REFER TO AS COPPER CREEK SO IT CAN BE DONE AS A CONDITION.

OK, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE SOMEONE FOR THE APPLICANT HERE.

HI, GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

HI, THIS IS MICHELE SONS WITH SMITH PACKETT.

WELCOME. THANK YOU, GLAD TO BE HERE.

WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOUR REZONING REQUEST.

I WONDERED, WOULD IT BE OK TO SHARE MY SCREEN? IS THAT PERMITTED? IT IS.

IF STEVE CAN SET IT UP.

YOU ARE ALL SET TO GO.

OK. THANK YOU.

CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT.

WE CAN.

GREAT.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING ONCE AGAIN THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR PROJECT.

WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE QUITE BRIEF OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME AND THE HOUR OF THE DAY.

BUT VERY QUICKLY, MY NAME IS MICHELE SONS AND I'M THE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT. I'M HERE TODAY WITH WINN BISHOP ON MY RIGHT HERE, WHO IS THE SVP OF DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION WITH SMITH PACKETT.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, KEITH GINDELSPERGER ALSO ON THE LINE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP A NEW SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF OKEMOS, AND WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT CURRENTLY TO PURCHASE 9.57 ACRES ON GRAND RIVER AVENUE, JUST EAST OF THE MALL.

A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHO WE ARE.

WE ARE A SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPER BASED IN ROANOKE, VIRGINIA.

WE HAVE A SECOND OFFICE IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.

WE ARE FAMILY OWNED AND WE ARE CONSIDERED THE LARGEST SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPER IN THE COUNTRY. CURRENTLY, OUR DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE IS WORTH IN EXCESS OF A BILLION DOLLARS.

CURRENTLY. WE ARE WORKING OVER A LARGE FOOTPRINT.

YOU CAN SEE THE STATES LISTED THERE, VIRGINIA, NORTH CAROLINA, SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, TENNESSEE, PENNSYLVANIA, ALABAMA, KENTUCKY, WEST VIRGINIA, MICHIGAN, OHIO, INDIANA, DELAWARE AND MARYLAND.

SO WE DO HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE FOOTPRINT.

WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE AND UNIQUELY SUCCESSFUL IS THAT WE DEVELOP FOR OUR SISTER COMPANY, ITS HARMONY, SENIOR SERVICES AND HARMONY IS THE OPERATIONS ARM OF OUR BUSINESS.

HARMONY IS OPERATING TODAY, TWENTY EIGHT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THAT FOOTPRINT I JUST MENTIONED, AND THERE ARE AN ADDITIONAL 10 HARMONY COMMUNITIES UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY AND 14 MORE IN DEVELOPMENT BY SMITH PACKETT.

THE CLOSEST COMMUNITY TO OKEMOS WOULD BE ELKHART, INDIANA.

HARMONY AT ELKHART, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF HOURS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF OKEMOS. SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING FOR OUR OWN SISTER COMPANY MEANS THAT WE'RE HEAVILY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITIES WE WORK IN AND WE'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES.

SO THAT'S A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHO WE ARE.

IN TERMS OF WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO COME TO OKEMOS, WE HAVE ANALYSTS THAT WORK TO IDENTIFY UNMET DEMANDS IN MARKETS ACROSS THE US AND OKEMOS AND THE EAST LANSING AREA WERE IDENTIFIED AS HAVING SIGNIFICANT UNMET DEMAND.

BASICALLY, IT MEANS THEY SAW A LARGE BASE OF INCOME AND AGE QUALIFIED SENIOR CITIZENS IN COMBINATION WITH A VERY LIMITED COMPETITIVE SUPPLY RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF QUALIFIED

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SENIOR CITIZENS IN A MARKET.

AND SO THOSE TWO ELEMENTS TOGETHER INDICATE A SIGNIFICANT UNMET DEMAND.

THAT IS WHAT IS DRIVING US TO OKEMOS.

I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN KEITH AND MARK'S MAP, BUT.

HERE IS OUR SITE RELATIVE TO THE MERIDIAN MALL HERE.

WE WERE IN TOWN RECENTLY AND TOOK A FEW SHOTS OF THIS OPEN, PREVIOUSLY GRADED SITE HERE.

AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PATH FORWARD FROM HERE RELATIVE TO A REZONING.

IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED C2.

WE WERE FORTUNATE TO MEET WITH TOWNSHIP STAFF A NUMBER OF WEEKS AGO.

WE HAD A NICE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES HERE.

AND ACTUALLY THE STAFF RECOMMENDED THE RA ZONE AS OUR TARGET FOR THE REZONING, SINCE THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE PERMITS SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY USE.

RA WOULD BE CONTIGUOUS WITH RA ZONE TO THE NORTH IN THE COMMUNITY NAMED GRAND RESERVE, I BELIEVE DIRECTLY NORTH OF OUR SITE, IT WOULD BE A DOWN ZONING IN ESSENCE, HENCE THE OFFER OF IT BEING A CONDITIONAL REZONE.

CERTAINLY WE DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THE LAND WITH A DOWN ZONING IN THE EVENT SOMETHING HAPPENED AND WE DID CLOSE, BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY A DOWN ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. WE ARE AWARE OF THE WETLANDS ON THE MAIN PARCELS THERE, I THINK IT'S ONE AND A HALF ACRES OF WETLANDS AND WE DO PLAN TO AVOID THOSE WETLANDS AND STAY OUT OF THE BUFFERS. WE FEEL WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE NEED ON THE SITE AND STILL AVOID THOSE WETLANDS. I DID HEAR MARK MENTION THE REQUIREMENT FOR A MINIMUM 10 ACRE SITE FOR THE SENIOR LIVING USE, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR SELLER TO TRY TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT TO MEET THAT 10 ACRE REQUIREMENT.

I WILL SAY THAT SOME OF THE, WE HAVE NINE POINT FIVE SEVEN CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT.

HALF AN ACRE OF THAT NINE POINT FIVE SEVEN TOTAL IS ACTUALLY LOCATED EAST OF POWELL.

AND SO WE'RE SEEKING TO INCREASE THAT SMALL PARCEL ON THE EAST SIDE OF POWELL TO ESSENTIALLY ONE ACRE TOTAL TO MEET THE 10 ACRE MINIMUM.

BUT WE ARE AWARE WE MAY STILL HAVE TO GO TO ZBA REGARDING THAT MINIMUM BY ACREAGE.

ONE THING I DID FORGET TO MENTION, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING HERE, BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR ARCHITECTS ACTUALLY CUSTOM DESIGN EACH ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS THE STRENGTHS OF THE SITE ITSELF, BUT ALSO TO REALLY FIT IN WITH ANY SORT OF REGIONAL ARCHITECTURAL ESTHETIC THAT'S PREVALENT IN AN AREA.

WE REALLY LIKE OUR BUILDINGS TO LOOK LIKE THEY BELONG.

WE DO NOT WANT THEM LOOKING LIKE THEY DON'T BELONG.

SO EVERYONE IS UNIQUE AND DESIGNED TO FIT IN WHERE IT SITS, BUT THEY ARE ALL EQUALLY BEAUTIFUL. I THINK WE HAVE REALLY STUNNING BUILDINGS.

THE EXTERIOR TREATMENTS ARE TYPICALLY A COMBINATION OF BRICK, STONE AND HARDY BOARD JUST TO GIVE IT A HIGHER END RESIDENTIAL FINISH.

SO CERTAINLY EACH BUILDING IS UNIQUE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD PREFER FOR ME TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS WE INCLUDED IN OUR ZONING APPLICATION NOW OR TO WAIT FOR QUESTIONS ON THAT, I'LL FOLLOW YOUR GUIDANCE.

WE HAVE THE APPLICATION WITH YOUR RESPONSES IN THEM, BUT I THINK IT'D PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE USEFUL FOR OUR TIME TO TURN IT OVER TO THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS TO ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS THEY MIGHT HAVE.

SO I WILL ENTERTAIN ANYBODY'S INTEREST AT THIS POINT.

PETER YOU NEED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST.

YUP, YOU'RE RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE THAT WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS, I

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DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WITH THEIR HANDS UP, BUT YOU CAN ALSO CALL 517-349-1232 IF YOU WISH TO COMMENT ON THIS.

AND THANKS, MARK. AND WE SEE NO HANDS AND WE'RE HEARING NO PHONES RINGING AT THIS TIME, SIR.

OK, WE CAN PROCEED AT THIS POINT WITH QUESTIONS.

IF WE GET SOME PHONE CALLS, WE CAN COME BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AS NECESSARY.

IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? I SEE MR. BLUMER'S HAND.

AM I? YEAH, THANK YOU QUESTION I HAVE IS ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE SUCCESSFULLY ABLE TO COMPLETE THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY.

HOW LONG DO YOU ENVISION IT TAKE TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THIS PLAN? YES, THIS IS WINN BISHOP WITH SMITH PACKETT, IT TYPICALLY OUR CONSTRUCTION TIME IS RUNNING LONGER THESE DAYS, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY AROUND 20 MONTHS OR SO TO CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING. THANK YOU.

MR. RICHARDS. AND MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE CONDITION REGARDING PURCHASE, SO IF YOUR COMPANY PURCHASED IT AND THEN RESELLS IT WITHOUT DEVELOPING IT, DOES IT SORT OF STAY AT THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IN TERMS OF IS IT TIED TO YOUR FIRM ACTUALLY DEVELOPING IT OR NOT? YEAH I THINK IT'S AND MARK, YOU MAY CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT IT'S REALLY THE WAY IT'S WORDED, IT'S TIED TO US CLOSING ON THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY.

OK. AND IF WE DO NOT PURCHASE IT, IT WOULD REVERT BACK.

IS THAT CORRECT MARK? THAT'S CORRECT. SO JUST CLARIFYING THEN YOU, AGAIN, NOT THAT THIS IS YOUR PLAN, BUT YOU COULD PURCHASE IT AND THEN SELL IT.

AND IT WAS STILL STAY RESIDENTIAL IS THAT CORRECT? WE COULD JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT THAT I KNOW OF.

WE ARE SINGULARLY FOCUSED ON OUR FOOTPRINT AND WHAT WE DO.

AND WE DON'T LOOK TO FLIP PROPERTY.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE DO NOT CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL WE HAVE ZONING APPROVAL PLAN APPROVAL FIRE MARSHAL, STATE PLANS, EVERY APPROVAL IMAGINABLE THAT THE LENDER WANTS WE HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE BEFORE WE EVEN CLOSE.

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR GENERAL CONTRACT SIGNED WITH THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S BUILDING THE BUILDING BEFORE WE CLOSE.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE THAT SIGNED BEFORE WE CLOSE AND TYPICALLY WE WILL START CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF CLOSING.

THAT'S OUR TYPICAL FOOTPRINT FLOORPLAN.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD BE VARY HERE.

WE'RE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN BEING LAND HOLDERS.

WE'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING AND OPERATING A SENIOR CARE FACILITY.

THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

MS. CORDILL. YES, THANK YOU.

WHEN THE COMMISSION LOOKS OR THE TOWNSHIP, FOR THAT MATTER, LOOKS AT A REZONING, WE TRY NOT TO GET TOO CONNECTED OR TOO ATTACHED TO A PARTICULAR BUILDING PROPOSAL.

SOMETIMES APPLICANTS CAN OFFER CONDITIONS ON THEIR REZONING REQUEST, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE TOWNSHIP CAN ASK OF THEM.

BUT I JUST I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

IT'S JUST THE TOWNSHIP WITH THE REZONING REQUEST IS NOT SUPPOSED TO GET TOO ATTACHED TO A PARTICULAR PROJECT, ALTHOUGH AT TIMES APPLICANTS DO COME FORWARD WITH CONDITIONS TO THEIR REZONING REQUEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCCONNELL.

ON THE OTHER HAND, ALL OF THE OTHER PERMITTED USES IN THAT NEW ZONING CATEGORY ALSO SEEM VERY MUCH LIKE THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC AND THINGS

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THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL FIND DESIRABLE.

I THINK IT WAS BEFORE I CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE CAR DEALERSHIP PROPOSAL WAS MADE, AND I RECALL THERE BEING AN AWFUL LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT IN OPPOSITION TO THAT PARTICULAR PROPOSED USE.

AND I'M NOT HEARING ANY NEGATIVE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING, SO I THINK THAT THAT MAYBE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT FOLKS IN THE TOWNSHIP ARE LOOKING TO HAPPEN ON THAT [INAUDIBLE]. THIS SEEMS TO FIT, IN MY VIEW, WHETHER IT ENDS UP BEING THE KIND OF FACILITY THAT WE JUST HEARD DESCRIBED OR THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE TOWNSHIP RECOGNIZES AS PERMITTED USES IN THAT CATEGORY.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS MAYBE FOR STAFF LATER, AGAIN, ABOUT TRAFFIC COUNTS, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NECESSARILY GERMANE TO THIS APPLICATION.

COMMENTS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

I GUESS I WILL WEIGH IN HERE.

OH MS. SHREWSBURY.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION I THINK THIS MIGHT BE FOR STAFF [INAUDIBLE] IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A FACILITY OF THE TYPE THAT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE PLANNING, IT REQUIRES A 10 ACRE PARCEL. AND THIS ISN'T.

SO IS THAT RECONCILABLE OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE SOME ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TO MAKE [INAUDIBLE]. IS THIS DOABLE OR IS THIS DOOMED BEFORE IT STARTS, IF WE APPROVE A REZONING AND THEY DON'T MEET THE 10 ACRE CAPACITY? RIGHT. AGAIN, AS PROPOSED A SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY, A MINIMUM OF 10 ACRES.

IT'S A USE ALLOWED IN ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

SO IT MAY NOT BE RA IT COULD BE ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY CATEGORY, IT COULD BE A MULTIPLE FAMILY CATEGORY IF THEY WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THAT ADDITIONAL PROPERTY.

ONE THING BECAUSE IT'S DIMENSIONAL, THE NUMBER OF ACRES THEY COULD SEE A RELIEF OR A WAIVER FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO MEET THAT MINIMUM OF 10 ACRES. OK, THANK YOU.

MS, CORDILL. YES, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A RECENTLY ADOPTED MASTER PLAN AND IT HAS A DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATION WHEN WE CONSIDER REZONING, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS TO BE CONSIDERED, I BELIEVE, AND THAT IS TRENDS IN LAND USE DEVELOPMENT AND IT BEING C2 ZONING NOW, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE DEPARTURE OR A REASONABLE CASE TO MAKE THAT REZONING COULD OCCUR HERE, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

BUT IT DOES SEEM TO TIE IN VERY WELL INTO FUTURE OR CURRENT TRENDS WE HAVE IN DEVELOPMENT. IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN ON THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

MR. RICHARDS. JUST AS A CLARIFICATION, AND I KNOW WE IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND THEN WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION, IT SEEMS LIKE TONIGHT WE'RE KIND OF ROLLING THE TWO TOGETHER.

IS THAT WHAT OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AFTER THIS? I THOUGHT THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT WERE OVER, BUT.

OK, THAT'S FINE. GO AHEAD.

YEAH. OK, SO MY THOUGHT ON THE ZONING AND THIS IS, THAT IF YOU LOOKED TO THE PARCELS TO THE EAST AND ALONG GRAND RIVER TO THE NORTH, YOU SEE COMMERCIAL, RECREATIONAL AND C2.

AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST, I GUESS, MY THINKING ON IT.

BUT IF THIS PARCEL GETS REZONED TO RESIDENTIAL, THEN I THINK WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE OTHER TWO PARCELS TO SOME SORT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT AND IT IS KEEPING WITH

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LOOKING TO THE EAST AS LESS COMMERCIAL AND MORE RESIDENTIAL.

SO IN TERMS OF COMMISSIONER CORDILL'S POINT, I THINK THAT IN MY VIEW, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE TWO PARCELS MAYBE ONCE ASSUMING THIS ACTUALLY STAYS IN PLACE AND THE PROJECT GETS BUILT, THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.

WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE A PART OF ONE PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF POWELL, WHICH I BELIEVE IS C2 RIGHT NOW AND THEN CR, WHICH IS THE DRIVING RANGE, BOTH OF THOSE.

AND THERE'S RESIDENTIAL, I BELIEVE, TO THE NORTH OF THOSE.

THAT, TO ME, WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE THAT THOSE PROPERTIES THEN WE LOOK AT A RESIDENTIAL USE AS OPPOSED TO A COMMERCIAL USE.

THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON IT, THAT THIS ZONING, YOU KNOW, TIES TO THE NORTH RESIDENTIAL DOESN'T TIE TO THE EAST.

BUT I THINK IT REALLY PUTS, AT LEAST IN MY VIEW, IT SORT OF PUTS SOME PRESSURE ON THOSE TO ACTUALLY BE LOOKING AT THAT AS MORE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WOULD MEAN A CHANGE IN THE MASTER PLAN, PROBABLY I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT THAT CLOSELY, BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON IT.

ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF.

THERE IS THE 10 ACRE MINIMUM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED, AND THE APPLICANT WAS TALKING ABOUT BUYING SOME LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF POWELL ROAD.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO COMBINE THOSE TWO ACREAGES JUST TO GET TO THE TEN ACRES WITH A ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT AGAIN, IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL, SO IT'D HAVE TO BE REZONED, BUT ARE WE GOING TO ACCEPT PROPERTY ON TWO SIDES OF THE ROAD? I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OR THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN.

I THINK IT WAS A CONTIGUOUS [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, I THOUGHT SO.

PROBABLY TOO.

SO TO GO FORWARD, IT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE A VARIANCE FROM OTHER THAN US . ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.

RIGHT, OK.

TO OTHER DISCUSSION BOARD MEMBERS OR QUESTIONS TO THE STAFF OR TO THE APPLICANT.

ARE WE READY TO DISCUSS A STRAW BALLOT A STRAW VOTE? AND IF SO, WHO WANTS TO START? MR. RICHARDS. I DID HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT AND IN REGARDS THEIR SURVEY OF NEED, AND IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT IN HASLETT.

SO IN TERMS IS IT OR LET ME JUST ASK THE QUESTION OF STAFF OR, IS THIS PROJECT SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR I BELIEVE IT'S A TOWN CENTER IN HASLETT.

THE DIFFERENCE OF THE PINE VILLAGE PROJECT THERE AT HASLETT, AND MARSH THAT WAS A MIXED USE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THAT WAS A SENIOR INDEPENDENT LIVING AND COMMERCIAL, THIS PROJECT IS MORE WHAT WAS AT THE END OF HANNAH BOULEVARD.

IF YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE.

RIGHT.

BUT IN TURNS AND I KNOW IT WAS A DIFFERENT PROCESS USED, BUT ARE SOME OF THE UNITS, THE SAME IN TERMS OF WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THAT PROJECT AND WAS PROPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF UNITS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THE PINE VILLAGE WAS INDEPENDENT LIVING, THAT'S ALL THEY WERE OFFERING FOR THAT PROJECT, THE WAY WE WROTE AND FOR THE SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY.

REMEMBER, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INDEPENDENT LIVING AS PART OF A MEMBER CARE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF ASSISTED LIVING TYPE OF FACILITIES.

SO WHAT WE DID, WE TOOK THOSE AND COMBINED THEM AND THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE SAME SITE IN A MIXED PATTERN. OTHERWISE, THE INDEPENDENT LIVING WOULD HAVE HAD TO BEEN MULTIPLE FAMILY IF IT WAS ATTACHED AND THEN THE ASSISTED LIVING MEMORY CARE THOSE TYPE OF FACILITIES WERE

[01:40:06]

THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN OTHER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

DID I ANSWER GERRY OR.

WELL, MAYBE I'D ASK THE APPLICANTS, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT THAT I'M REFERENCING AND ARE YOU OFFERING THE SAME UNITS? WELL, WE'VE SEEN THAT IN THE MARKET STUDY.

I DO NOT KNOW THEIR UNIT COUNT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IT IDENTIFIED.

SO WE KNOW WE'VE GOT IT ON OUR RADAR.

WE'LL HAVE A MIX OF MEMORY CARE UNITS, WHICH IS ALZHEIMER'S SECURED UNITS.

WE'LL HAVE ASSISTED LIVING AND THOSE RESIDENTS NEED SOME ASSISTANCE WITH DAILY LIVING, WHETHER MEDICATIONS OR MEALS OR OTHER THINGS.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE COMPETITIVE INDEPENDENT LIVING.

INDEPENDENT LIVING USUALLY OR IS AT LEAST ONE MEAL A DAY.

ASSISTED LIVING IS THREE MEALS A DAY MEDICATION AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

I'M REALLY NOT SURE HOW IT COMPARES TO THE COMPETITOR.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU DID HAVE IT IN YOUR MARKET STUDY.

YEAH, YES, WE DID. OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MR. BLUMER. THANK YOU.

JUST FOR DISCUSSION ON THE OFFERED PROJECT, I'M LOOKING AT THE CURRENT USE MAP, IT SEEMS TO FIT VERY WELL IN WITH THE ALREADY EXISTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AROUND THAT PARCEL.

DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT IT'S ONE ACRE SHY OF WHAT'S MANDATED BY THE WEATHER ZONE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF.

THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR FACILITY DON'T HAVE AN OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN IT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK IT'S AN IDEAL USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND IF IT WERE CALLED UPON FOR A VOTE TODAY, I WOULD VOTE TO APPROVE IT.

PETER.

YES, SIR, I WOULD AGREE.

I THINK THAT. THE REASON I THINK WE'RE SEEING AN INFLUX OF THIS KIND OF FACILITY IS BECAUSE, LET'S FACE IT, THOSE OF US WHO ARE BABY BOOMERS ARE MOVING THAT WAY FAST.

AND THAT'S A LARGE GROUP WITH THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND WHO ARE LOOKING FOR WHO WILL BE TRANSITIONING IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

AND SO I THINK THOSE KINDS OF FACILITIES ARE BOTH NEEDED AND I THINK IN THIS CASE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WOULD BE WELCOME.

NOT THAT I'M PLANNING ON MOVING ANY TIME SOON.

WE JUST FOUND OUT WHERE YOU ARE.

I'LL LOOK FOR THE EGGS OUT ON MY FRONT DOOR.

ANYBODY ELSE WITH COMMENTS.

I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. PREMOE AND MR. BLUMER THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE OF THIS PROPERTY.

MOST OF GRAND RIVER WAS ZONED C2 IN ORDER TO CONCENTRATE THE COMMERCIAL ON THAT CORRIDOR.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR LOT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR MANY YEARS UNTIL WE HAD THE PRESENTATION FROM THE AUTO DEALERSHIP AND CHANGED IT OR GAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT WHICH DIDN'T OCCUR. IT BORDERS A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ZONING.

IT BORDERS ANOTHER RA ZONING, AND IT'S KITTY CORNER FROM RR ZONE.

SO I THINK IF IT EVENTUATES TO BE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, AS HAS BEEN SPOKEN OF TONIGHT, IT DOES FIT WITHIN THE AREA.

AND IT DOES IT'S NOT EXACTLY RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT IS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.

I WOULD APPROVE IT.

OTHERS. I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST ON A STRAW BALLOT.

A STRAW VOTE MS. CORDILL.

[01:45:02]

ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT ISN'T OBLIGATED.

NO. AS WE STAND TODAY TO DEVELOP THAT TYPE OF USE, I THINK A SENIOR COMMUNITY LIKE THAT WITH DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CARE WOULD BE SUITABLE.

AND I THINK THE AREAS TO THE NORTH FIT IN NICELY TO IT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A REZONING, JUST REITERATING, I THINK THAT TRENDS ARE WHY WOULD CONSIDER A REZONING BECAUSE IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

BUT I THINK CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED, REDUCING THE NEED FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE TOWNSHIP. SO I'M IN FAVOR.

BUT I'D ALSO ADD THAT IN THIS SITUATION.

IT'S A RELATIVELY LIMITED SIZE LOT, AND EVEN IF WE REZONE IT TO THE PROPOSAL, OTHER USES WITHIN THAT ZONING ARE NOT LIKELY A PLANNED UNIT OR DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE THE ONLY THING THAT COULD BE PROPOSED THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE ON GRAND RIVER AVENUE.

CERTAINLY OF PLANNING IT FOR HOUSING PLACES PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO GO BEFORE US.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF RISK IN REZONING IT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CONTINGENCY PLACE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOLD TO THIS DEVELOPER BY A CERTAIN DATE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT ZONING OR REVERT BACK.

SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON YOUR COMMENTS THERE, MS. CORDILL. MS. SHREWSBURY. DO YOU HAVE SOME THINKING.

I AT THIS POINT, EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD LEADS ME TOWARDS SUPPORTING THE REZONING.

THANK YOU. MR. RICHARDS, I WOULD SUPPORT THE REZONING.

MR. MCCONNELL.

SUPPORT. AND MS. SNYDER. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I'VE BEEN LISTENING VERY INTENTLY, AND I DESPITE MY ATTENTIVE LISTENING, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED.

SO I APOLOGIZE BEFORE ACTUALLY ANSWERING TO THE STRAW POLL IF POSSIBLY DIRECTOR KIESELBACH COULD HELP ME OUT WITH THIS.

IN LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THE FACILITY AS DESCRIBED TONIGHT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT? IS THAT CONSIDERED AN INSTITUTION FOR HUMAN CARE OR NOT? AND MAYBE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED.

I APOLOGIZE. NO.

WHAT WE CLASSIFY IT AS IS A NON RESIDENTIAL USE IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

SO IF IT IS REZONED AND THEY MOVE FORWARD, YOU WOULD SEE THIS AGAIN AS IT IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED. OK, THANK YOU.

SO MY RESPONSE FOR THE STRAW POLL WOULD BE I'M IN FAVOR [INAUDIBLE] BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND HOW THE THE CHANGE IN ZONING DOES FIT WITH THE AREA.

BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO BE AS I GUESS BEHIND THE PROJECT AS SOME OTHER COMMISSIONERS SOUND LIKE THEY ARE.

SO BUT I WOULD SUPPORT THE REZONING.

THANK YOU. MR. KIESELBACH, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GO FORWARD WITH A PROPOSED MOTION FOR THE NEXT MEETING? YES.

WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING READY FOR YOU? OK, SO IT WILL BE SCHEDULED ON THE 10TH, I BELIEVE IT IS, YES.

MAY 10TH FOR OUR MEETING.

AND AT THAT POINT, WE WILL ACTUALLY MAKE A DECISION.

SO THIS IS THE STRAW BALLOT BY THE BOARD MEMBERS NOT BINDING, AND SO IF OPINIONS CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, THE VOTES MAY ALSO CHANGE.

SO. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC MEETING AT 8:49.

[01:50:05]

I THINK THE APPLICANT FOR BEING PRESENT AND EXPLAINING YOUR PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, I BELIEVE, IS MR.

[8. OTHER BUSINESS]

PERRY TO TALK ABOUT THE PATHWAY MASTER PLAN UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TONIGHT, AND ABSOLUTELY THAT'S THE TOPIC.

IT'S THE PATHWAY MASTER PLAN.

SO FOR OVER 40 YEARS AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, THE TOWNSHIP HAS HAD A VERY ROBUST PATHWAY SYSTEM. AND ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS A PLAN.

AND THE FUNDING DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE, THE PATHWAY MILLAGE THAT WAS RENEWED IN 2016, AND THAT PROVIDES ABOUT SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ANNUALLY FOR THE PATHWAY SYSTEM.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT'S USED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

BUT A PORTION OF THAT ALSO DOES PAY FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT.

AND THEN WE TRY TO LEVERAGE THAT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO GET ADDITIONAL GRANTS.

AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM, INGHAM COUNTY PARKS AND TRAIL MILLAGE TO TRY TO GET AS MANY DOLLARS AS WE CAN BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY SINCE OUR RESIDENTS ARE PAYING THAT TAX.

SO WHAT WE DO WITH THE PATHWAY MASTER PLAN IS WE TRY TO REVIEW IT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

AND REALLY, WHEN I SAY MASTER PLAN, IT'S REALLY A MAP THAT IDENTIFIES THE CURRENT SYSTEM, BUT ALSO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

AND IT'S REALLY BROKEN INTO TWO PARTS WHEN WE DO THE UPDATE.

THE FIRST IS KIND OF A SHORT TERM PLAN TO IDENTIFY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON AS A DEPARTMENT AND THEN SOME ADDITIONS TO REALLY CREATE A LONG TERM MAP, WHICH IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE AS THIS COMMISSION IS AWARE THAT AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN THE TOWNSHIP, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS TYPICALLY IS IF THERE'S A PATHWAY THAT'S TIED TO THAT PARCEL, THE DEVELOPER IS KIND OF ON THE HOOK TO DEVELOP THAT AND INCREASE THE PATHWAY SYSTEM SO. IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THIS AS UPDATED AS POSSIBLE AS NEW DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.

SO, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE SHORT TERM PLAN, WHICH IS KIND OF 2021 THROUGH 2025.

THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THAT BASICALLY THIS YEAR AN THE NEXT TWO IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED AND TIED UP WITH THE MSU TO LAKE LANSING PATHWAY.

IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT REALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE FINALLY CONSTRUCTING THAT AFTER BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS. SO WE'RE EXCITED FOR THAT.

AND THEN PHASE THREE, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT PROBABLY IN 2023 IF THINGS WORK OUT AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE FUNDING WE NEED.

AND THEN IN 2024 AND 2025, IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO CIRCLE BACK AND TRY TO CLOSE SOME OF THE, WHAT WE CALL HISTORICAL GAPS IN THE NETWORK.

AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED A FEW OF THOSE ON THE MAP WITH LIKE 24-1 IS A SECTION ON OKEMOS ROAD. WE'D LIKE TO CLOSE THAT ONE OFF.

THERE'S ONE UP THERE BY LAKE AND MARSH ROAD.

IT'S KIND OF A TRIANGLE PROPERTY.

THE TOWNSHIP ACQUIRED THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE FOR US TO CLOSE.

24-3 IS OVER BY THE COPPER CREEK SUBDIVISION.

AS THAT'S GOING IN THERE'S A GAP IN THERE THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THAT CLOSED SO THOSE RESIDENTS CAN HAVE A NICE CONNECTION TO THE PATHWAY SYSTEM.

AND THEN 25-1, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT AS KIND OF A PRIORITY FOR US IS THE UP IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE TOWNSHIP.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S UP THERE KIND OF IS ISOLATED RIGHT NOW.

SO AND PART OF IT IS BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET TO AS FAR AS BUILDING A PATHWAY, BUT WE FEEL THAT IT'S TIME HAS COME AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY TO CREATE THAT CONNECTION FOR WHITE HILLS LAKE UP THERE.

AND THEN IN THE MEMO THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, THERE'S TEN POTENTIAL NEW ADDITIONS TO THE PATHWAY MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AS A DEPARTMENT.

AND SOME OF THAT COMES FROM FEEDBACK FROM OUR RESIDENTS, FROM OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE ON THERE.

WE CAN RUN THROUGH THEM, IF YOU LIKE, BUT THEY ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP WITH CIRCLES.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE.

BUT LIKE NO ONE IS ON GREEN ROAD.

AND REALLY THAT CAME ABOUT FROM PHASE THREE OF THE MSU LAKE LANSING PATHWAY, JUST MAKES SENSE TO TRY TO LOOP THAT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE FEEL THAT'S IMPORTANT TO DO.

SO I WON'T RUN THROUGH ALL OF THOSE AGAIN.

THIS REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN ON IT, MAYBE PRESENT SOME OTHER SECTIONS OR CONNECTIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT, AND AGAIN, REALLY GARNER FEEDBACK FROM YOU AND POTENTIALLY THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS TO THREE OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ULTIMATELY IT WILL RETURN TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, WHICH IS NEW

[01:55:02]

SINCE WE UPDATED IT LAST TIME.

POTENTIALLY EITHER HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THEM OR AT THE FULL BOARD, WHICH IS NORMALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND THEN ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEEN COMPLETED, THE TOWNSHIP BOARD ADOPTS IT AND THEN IT BECOMES OUR NEW ROADMAP FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT'S ENOUGH OF ME TALKING.

I'M REALLY HERE TO SOLICIT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP AND LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

[INAUDIBLE] FROM THE MEMBERSHIP.

MR. MCCONNELL.

I'M JUST A HUGE FAN OF THE MILLAGE OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, OF ALL THE THOUGHT THAT'S GOING INTO WHERE IT CAN GO AND ESPECIALLY IT'S NOT ALWAYS EVIDENT TO THE PUBLIC HOW. CRAFTY, OUR TOWNSHIP STAFF ARE IN FINDING FUNDING FROM OUR OWN SOURCES, FROM OTHER SOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES TO INSTALL THESE VARIOUS BITS AND PIECES, AND IT'S JUST WONDERFUL TO SEE THE PATHWAY SYSTEM CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.

I DON'T SEE ANY OBVIOUS OMISSIONS ON THE PLAN AS IT IS.

IT'S A GREAT WISH LIST.

MS. CORDILL. I'M ALSO A SUPPORTER OF CREATING PEDESTRIAN LINKAGES.

I'M JUST WONDERING, COULD WE SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT THAT MAP LOOKS LIKE AND DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUT ON BY SHARING THE SCREEN? UNFORTUNATELY, WITH ZOOM, AS WE ZOOM OUT AND OUR THIRTY TWO SQUARE MILE TOWNSHIP, WE LOSE A LOT OF PERSPECTIVE ON IT, BUT WE DO HAVE IT AVAILABLE.

IF THERE IS ANY RESIDENT THAT'S WATCHING THIS ON HOMTV THAT WOULD LIKE A COPY OF IT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME.

IN FACT, THE EASIEST EMAIL IS DPW@MERIDIAN.MI.US WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY OF IT.

IT IS ON THE WEBSITE.

IF YOU GO TO THE SEARCH BOX IT'S ACTUALLY THE QUICKEST WAY TO DO IT AND JUST PUT IN PATHWAY MASTER PLAN.

IT'LL BRING THIS MAP UP BUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET A HOLD OF IT OR THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. IF YOU WANT TO COME INTO TOWN HALL, YOU KNOW, JUST REACH OUT TO US AND WE'LL TRY TO SET UP A TIME AND WE'LL MEET YOU ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND GO OVER THE MAP WITH YOU. WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE PROUD OF THE PATHWAY SYSTEM.

WELL I'D ADD MY TWO CENTS, I LOVE THE PATHWAY SYSTEM, I STARTED WRITING IN MY RETIREMENT AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THESE PATHS AND THE MORE YOU CAN GET ME AROUND THE BETTER I LIKE IT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THE EXPANSIONS YOU'VE PROPOSED.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

AND AGAIN, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE MASTER PLAN AS IDENTIFIED, WE JUST APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT.

AND THEN NEXT BOARD WE'LL GO TO AND ULTIMATELY WILL PASS ON THOSE SENTIMENTS TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD THAT WE'D BE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PLAN.

THE ONLY THING I'VE HEARD TIME EVERY SO OFTEN IS IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A PATH GOING IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY FROM HULETT ROAD ACROSS OVER TO HAGEDORN AND POSSIBLY HOOKING UP TO THE CITY OF LANSING IN THERE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WITHIN YOUR CONTROL.

WE DO TRY TO PARTNER WITH OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

IN FACT, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF EAST LANSING ON A PROJECT UP HERE IN THE MIC] MOVING THIS AROUND.

IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER HERE AT LAKE LANSING AND AGAIN, THE GREEN ACTUALLY IS A CITY OF EAST LANSING PATHWAY AND THEY'VE CONSTRUCTED SOME NEW PATHWAYS THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PURSUING A GRANT WITH THE STATE OF MICHIGAN INGHAM COUNTY ROAD DEPARTMENT, CITY OF EAST LANSING AND OURSELVES TO TRY TO ACTUALLY REDO THIS INTERSECTION HERE AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

RIGHT NOW, WITH THAT SLIP LANE, YOU KNOW DRIVERS AREN'T NECESSARILY FOCUSED ON THE PEDESTRIANS TRYING TO GET ACROSS HERE.

SO THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL THIS MIGHT GET RECONFIGURED.

AND THEN WE HAVE DOLLARS SET ASIDE TO DO THIS PATHWAY HERE, WHICH IS NICE BECAUSE IT'LL THEN TIE BACK INTO THE CITY OF EAST LANSINGS PATHWAYS SYSTEM AND THEIR OTHER WATER PARK

[02:00:05]

AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO REALLY CREATE THAT CONNECTIVITY.

OTHER NUMBERS, ANYTHING.

INTERESTING THAT YOU FOCUSED ON THAT INTERSECTION.

IN MY YEARS OF WORKING WITH THE MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP POLICE DEPARTMENT I KNOW THAT AN OFFICER CAN FILL HIS TICKET QUOTA FOR THE DAY JUST BY SITTING THERE AND WATCHING CARS RUN THROUGH THAT FOUR WAY STOP SIGN.

WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION DO YOU NEED FROM US MR. PERRY.

REALLY, AGAIN, JUST OVERALL, I DON'T NEED REALLY ANY FORMAL ACTION.

IDEALLY IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO REPORT TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE PLAN.

BUT AGAIN, I DIDN'T PREPARE A RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO AT YOUR NEXT MEETING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES OR EVEN JUST A SIMPLE MOTION SAYING THAT YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PLAN, THAT WOULD WORK FOR US. MR. MCCONNELL. YOU'RE MUTED.

I'M WORKING ON IT, MY FINGERS JUST NOT WORKING THE WAY IT USED TO.

I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, EXPRESS ITS SUPPORT FOR THE PATHWAY MASTER PLAN AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING. MR. BLUMER. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION.

I SEE MS. CORDILL HAS HER HAND UP ALSO.

I WAS GOING TO SECOND THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S FINE.

[LAUGHTER] MR. RICHARDS. YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, SO I PREFER WE NOT TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL PUT IT ON THE NEXT MEETING.

I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.

HOW ABOUT YOU, MR. MCCONNELL, ARE YOU WILLING TO WAIT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS? SURE, SURE, THAT'S FINE.

OK, I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE STUDY THIS AND LOOK AT IT, THE BETTER SO I'D SUGGEST WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING ON THE 10TH.

SO THE MOTION TO SUPPORT, THE PLAN.

SO. UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE AGENDA.

WHICH ALSO, REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, TOWNSHIP BOARD UPDATE.

[9. REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

THANK YOU. THE LAST TOWNSHIP BOARD MEETING WAS APRIL 20TH, THE ONLY PLANNING ITEM THAT'S BEEN IN FRONT OF THE BOARD HAS BEEN THE ZONING AMENDMENT TO REQUIRE THE TOWNSHIP BOARD APPROVAL FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES OR AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIPS.

AND THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING FOR INTRODUCTION.

THEIR NEXT MEETING IS ON A THURSDAY NIGHT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL ELECTIONS ON TUESDAY, THEY MOVED IT TO MAY SIX.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE FINAL ADOPTION ON THAT AMENDMENT AT THAT MEETING.

AND THEN COMING UP, WE'VE GOT A FEW THINGS JUST SO PLANNING COMMISSION IS AWARE OF.

WE'VE GOT SILVERSTONE SUBDIVISION COMING IN FOR A FINAL PLAT.

SO THAT COULD BE EITHER AT THE MAY 6TH OR MAY 18TH BOARD MEETING.

WE'VE GOT AN EXTENSION REQUEST FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AT NEWTON PLACE.

IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT'S THE MIXED USE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THERE AT THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SAGINAW AND NEWTON.

AND AS PART OF THAT, THE OVERALL SIZES OF THE BUILDING EXCEEDED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. THEY NEEDED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT, HAS A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD.

THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO START CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THAT TIME.

SO THEY'RE SEEKING AN EXTENSION OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO TOWNSHIP BOARD APPROVAL. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE REZONING AT JOLLY AND KANSAS.

THE APPLICANT HAS PUT THAT ON HOLD.

[02:05:01]

BUT IN AN EMAIL TODAY, THEY SAID THEY WOULD POSSIBLY BE READY TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD ON MAY 18TH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. LIAISON REPORTS.

HAS SOMEBODY GOT SOMETHING THERE. MR. BLUMER. NOT SURE IF THIS QUALIFIES AS A LIAISON REPORT, BUT THERE WAS A SUBCOMMITTEE APPOINTED TO INTERVIEW CANDIDATES.

NOBODY CAN REPLACE MR. KIESELBACH, BUT PERHAPS A SUCCESSOR AND A RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE AFTER INTERVIEWING THOSE TWO CANDIDATES. I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO THE BOARD NOW TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO ACT ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS MADE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER LIAISON REPORTS? SEEING NO HANDS GO UP TO PROJECT UPDATES.

NEW APPLICATIONS, WE HAD NONE.

SITE PLANS RECEIVED, NONE, SITE PLANS APPROVED, NONE.

SO WE'RE NOW BACK TO THE SECOND OR THE LAST SECTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT MAY HAVE THREE MINUTES. THEY MAY ALSO CALL IN AT 517-349-1232.

I'LL WAIT A FEW MINUTES TO SEE IF WE GET ANY CALLERS.

MR. RICHARDS, YEAH, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, I GUESS I WANT TO WISH MARK KIESELBACH, OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY PLANNING DEVELOPMENT WELL HERE, AS HE MOVES ON TO RETIREMENT.

MARK, WHEN IS YOUR LAST DAY? MY LAST DAY IS MAY 28TH.

OK. MAY 28TH.

YES. OK, SO WE GOT SOME TIME.

YES. THANK YOU.

I THINK HE'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE TOWNSHIP WAS FORMED HASN'T HE.

SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT.

SOMETIMES IT FEELS THAT WAY TO YOU, DOESN'T IT? YEAH. SINCE PAUL REVERE'S TAVERN SERVED ALCOHOL.

PAUL REVERE'S TAVERN SERVED ALCOHOL, WHEN MY DAD WAS IN SCHOOL IN HIS 40S BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD GET IT, BECAUSE EAST LANSING WAS DRY.

THAT'S WHY THEY BUILT IT SO CLOSE TO THE LINE.

YEAH. AND THE GABLES.

AND THE GABLES.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT BEING THE CASE, I'M GOING TO ANNOUNCE THE ADJOURNMENT OF THIS MEETING. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND THANKS TO THE PUBLIC.

AND WE ARE ADJOURNED WITH A NEW DATE ON MAY 10TH, I BELIEVE.

SO. I'LL SEE YOU THEN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Apr 26, 2021 Planning Commission

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