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OK, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE OUR FOUR MEMBERS HERE, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
AND WELCOME TO THE MERIDIAN CHARTER TOWNSHIP ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING TODAY IS DECEMBER 16, 2020.
AND WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT WILL BE TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA.
ANYONE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? OK, I SAW MEMBER HENDRICKSON'S HAND GO UP FIRST AND SECONDED BY MEMBER FIELD-FOSTER.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. ALL RIGHT, I MOVE THE AGENDA, ALL RIGHT.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AGENDA? OK, GO FOR A VOTE ON APPROVING THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.
MEMBER FIELD-FOSTER? SORRY, I KEEP HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY LITTLE MUTE BUTTON.
YEAH, THAT'S OK. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
THE I SAW YOU MOTION THE SECOND OK.
YES. SO THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING IS APPROVED.
ALL RIGHT, NOW LET'S GO AHEAD.
THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 28TH 2020.
CAN I HAVE A MOVEMENT ON THAT ONE.
SO MOVED. MOVED BY MEMBER FIELD-FOSTER.
SECOND. ALL RIGHT, SECONDED BY MEMBER KULHANEK.
ANY DISCUSSION? OR ANY CORRECTIONS NECESSARY.
[Items 1 & 2]
IF NOT, THIS IS A VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 28TH, 2020.MEMBER FIELD-FOSTER. YES, YES.
MEMBER KULHANEK? YES, MEMBER HENDRICKSON? YES. AND THE CHAIR VOTES YES, SO THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 28, 2020 ARE APPROVED.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH I DON'T SEE ANY, AND FOLLOWED BY UNFINISHED BUSINESS, WHICH THERE IS NONE, THANKFULLY.
AND SO WE WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO NEW BUSINESS, WHICH WILL BE ZBA CASE NUMBER 20-12-16-1.
CHIPOTLE MEXICAN GRILL 610 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE SUITE THIRTEEN HUNDRED.
NEWPORT BEACH, CALIFORNIA 92660.
AND WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CHAPMAN. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
[3. CORRECTIONS, APPROVAL AND RATIFICATION OF MINUTES]
HOLD ON ONE SECOND HERE.[6A. ZBA CASE NO. 20-12-16-1 (Chipotle Mexican Grill), 610 Newport Center Drive Ste. 1300, Newport Beach, CA, 92660]
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ANY LUCK KEITH.THE TELEVISION BUSINESS CALLED DEAD AIR.
I KNOW WE'RE LOSING OUR VIEWERSHIP.
WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
YEAH, MY SCREEN I WON'T SHARE.
AND IT'S LOCKED ON MY COMPUTER, SO I'M TRYING TO UNLOCK IT.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT IT TURNED DOWN.
OOPS. ARE YOU SEEING THAT? WE CAN SEE THAT. WE CAN SEE A WHITE SCREEN.
SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE KEITH WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
I KNOW, BUT IT'S LOCKED ON MY COMPUTER IS THE PROBLEM, SO I'M GOING TO UNLOCK IT.
I HAVE NO CLUE WHY, BUT IT'S COMING UP TO MY SYSTEM PREFERENCES.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE MEETINGS WITHOUT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY AND THE LAST ONE.
2020, HAS ONE MORE LAST GASP OF.
IT WOULDN'T BE 2020 UNLESS THERE WAS ONE GAP.
I MEAN. I KNOW, RIGHT? IT HAD TO HAPPEN. IT WAS INEVITABLE.
SORRY KEITH IT WAS INEVITABLE. IT'S ONLY BECAUSE HE TOLD US THAT THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE A DECEMBER MEETING.
DON'T MAKE PROMISES YOU CAN'T KEEP.
[LAUGHTER] TALK TO EVERY PERSON IN THE TOWNSHIP, NO ONE WANTS A VARIANCE.
DON, WE GOT TO GET YOU A COMPUTER WITH A WEBCAM, MY FRIEND.
I THINK WE I THINK DON, I THINK I MET YOU AT THE AT THE TRAINING.
I WAS AT THE TRAINING THOUGH AND I STILL HAVE THE TRAINING PACKET HERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
AND THEN WE ALL DISAPPEARED AND CRAWLED INTO OUR HOLES FOR THE YEAR.
THAT WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE MET IN PERSON.
YES. HE'S LIKE THE CHARLIE VOICE ON CHARLIE'S ANGELS, YOU KNOW ALL YOU CAN DO IT JUST THE LITTLE SPEAKER BOX ON THE DESK.
LITTLE SPEAKER BOX IN A VOICE.
SO THINGS ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND UNTIL WE GET THIS PRESENTATION UP.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GIVE US FREE REIN TO JUST TALK AND TAKE UP SPACE? WITTY, WITTY BANTER FOR THE RENOS EAST CROWD THAT'S NOT THERE, BY THE WAY, SO IT'S OK.
I LIKE TO THINK THAT THEY'RE WATCHING FROM HOME, EVEN IF THEY CAN'T BE WATCHING WHILE THEY'RE THERE. HERE'S HOPING THEY'RE GETTING TAKEOUT, SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THEN I LIKE I LIKE THAT OPTIMISM.
WE LIKE THAT. YEAH, I LIKE IT.
I KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTING ALL OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S HARD, BUT. MAN, I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN SUPPORTING ALL THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS WAY TOO MUCH. YEAH, DEFINITELY.
DEFINITELY. AND MY KIDS LOVE IT BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE SICK OF MOM'S COOKING AS MOM IS OF COOKING. YEAH.
I SAW, LIKE, THE CALL TO ARMS, LIKE, COME HELP SAVE MITTON RAISE OVER.
I WENT OVER THERE THE OTHER DAY AND THERE WAS A LINE OUT THE DOOR AND AROUND [INAUDIBLE] WOW. SO PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.
YEAH THAT'S GOOD. I GOT ONE FROM SADDLEBACK THE OTHER DAY AND SO I WAS JUST LIKE, OH I GOT TO ORDER SOME BARBECUE. YEAH.
WHICH YOU KNOW [INAUDIBLE] KNOW MAYBE OUR ARTERIES BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S OK.
I THINK I'M RUNNING OUT OF LIKE CHIT CHAT.
I KNOW I WAS GOING TO SAY, KEITH DO YOU THINK THAT WE CAN SHARE FROM THE PACKET WOULD ONE OF THE REST OF US, BE ABLE TO SHARE AT LEAST JUST THE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME OF THE MAPS AND THINGS ON THE ON THE PACKET.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAD ALL OF YOUR MATERIALS THERE, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE WE COULD WE
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COULD MAYBE. [INAUDIBLE] YEAH.WE COULD JUST WE COULD JUST REPLAY YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH IT AND THEN I LET ME SEE.
DO I KNOW YOU CAN WALK THROUGH IT FIRST.
YEAH. WHY DON'T WE WALK THROUGH IT AND THEN IF THERE'S NEED TO I MEAN I THINK ALSO I MEAN I THINK WE SHOULD ALL KEEP IN MIND WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY A FEW TIMES.
WE HAVE, I THINK MEMBER HENDRICKSON, YOU WERE HERE FOR THE AND MEMBER KULHANEK.
BOTH WERE HERE FOR THE ASPEN DENTAL CASE AS WELL.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE TO SHOW YOU IS EXCEPT FOR SOME PHOTOS IS IN THE PACKET.
SO, YEAH, I THINK LET'S JUST GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION.
AND IF WE IF FOR SOME REASON WE NEED PICTURES, I THINK ONE OF US SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PACKET.
BUT IF WE IF EVERYBODY HAVE BEEN CONFIRMING EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PACKET SO YOU CAN ACCESS IT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO LOOK.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I SAY WE JUST MOVE ON.
SO THE APPLICANT IS CHIPOTLE MEXICAN GRILL AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO INSTALL A SECOND WALL SIGN AT 2085 WEST GRAND RIVER AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED C2 COMMERCIAL AND IS APPROXIMATELY ONE POINT EIGHTY FOUR ACRES IN SIZE, LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GRAND RIVER AND OKEMOS.
THE PREVIOUS RESTAURANT WAS DEMOLISHED AND A [INAUDIBLE] TEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY SIX SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED.
SO THE APPLICANT OCCUPIES THE EASTERNMOST TENANT SPACE.
THERE ARE ENTRANCES TO THE BUILDING ON BOTH THE EAST AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
THERE IS A DRIVE THRU WINDOW THAT IS FOR ONLINE OR APP ORDERS, AND THAT WAS APPROVED UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT 19031.
THE WHOLE PROJECT WAS APPROVED UNDER SITE PLAN REVIEW, 1911.
CURRENT TENANTS OF THE BUILDING INCLUDE CHIPOTLE, [INAUDIBLE] REHAB PHYSICAL THERAPY, VERIZON, ASPEN DENTAL AND A VACANT SUITE.
AND IN JUNE, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS GRANTED A VARIANCE TO PERMIT A FORTY SEVEN SQUARE FOOT WALL SIGN ON THE NORTH FACADE AND A SECOND FORTY SEVEN SQUARE FOOT WALL ON THE WEST FACADE. THIS WAS IN THE WESTERNMOST TENANT SPACE THAT IS OCCUPIED BY ASPEN DENTAL.
SO IN APPROVING THAT VARIANCE, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS PUT A CONDITION LIMITING THE SIZE OF BOTH OF THE SIGNS TO FORTY SEVEN SQUARE FEET.
THE APPLICANT HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED TO INSTALL TWO NINETY TWO POINT THREE SQUARE FOOT WALL SIGNS, WITH ONE BEING ON THE NORTH BUILDING FAÇADE THAT HAD FORTY SEVEN LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ON GRAND RIVER.
AND THE OTHER WAS THE WEST BUILDING FAÇADE THAT HAD [INAUDIBLE] FEET OF FRONTAGE ON OKEMOS ROAD. SO THE TOWNSHIPS ORDINANCE STATES THAT MULTITENANT BUILDINGS ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE ONE WALL SIGN FOR EACH TENANT THAT HAS AN INDIVIDUAL MEANS OF PUBLIC ACCESS AND BUILDING FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC STREET.
SO THE SIZE OF THE WALL SIGN IS EQUIVALENT TO ONE SQUARE FOOT FOR EACH ONE LINEAR FOOT OF BUILDING OCCUPIED.
AND CURRENTLY, THE APPROXIMATELY TWENTY THREE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT TENANT SPACE FOR CHIPOTLE HAS TWENTY NINE LINEAR FEET OF FRONTAGE ON GRAND RIVER AVENUE.
SO WE MEASURE THIS BY GOING FROM THE DIVIDING WALL OF THE TENANT SPACE TO THE OUTSIDE WALL ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO BASED ON THAT, TWENTY NINE FEET OF FRONTAGE, THEY'RE PERMITTED TO HAVE A TWENTY NINE SQUARE FOOT WALL SIGN AND A WALL SIGN PERMIT WAS APPROVED ON AUGUST 2020 TO INSTALL THE EXISTING TWENTY NINE SQUARE FOOT CHIPOTLE SIGN LOCATED ON THE NORTH FAÇADE.
AND SO NOW THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE OR THE EAST FAÇADE TO HAVE A SECOND TWENTY NINE SQUARE FOOT SIGN TO BE LOCATED THERE.
THERE IS PUBLIC ACCESS PROVIDED ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING AS 80 FEET OF LINEAR
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FRONTAGE IN LENGTH. HOWEVER, THE FAÇADE IS FACING A DRIVEWAY WHICH DOESN'T FRONT ON A PUBLIC STREET, AND SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO INSTALL A SECOND WALL SIGN ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT IS NOT A FRONT FAÇADE.AND THAT'S IT. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAPMAN. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE APPLICANT PARTY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS CASE TONIGHT? AND IF SO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD BEFORE YOU BEGIN.
HELLO, THIS IS WILL JOHNSON WITH JOHNSON SIGN COMPANY.
AND OUR ADDRESS IS 2240 LANSING AVENUE, JACKSON, MICHIGAN.
AND I DON'T HAVE A TON TO ADD.
KEITH REALLY LAID OUT EVERYTHING THAT I AT LEAST WANTED TO.
AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, YOU GUYS ALL GOT A COPY OF OUR CRITERIA OF YOU KNOW THE EIGHT CRITERIA WE FILLED OUT.
AND I THINK JUST THE ONE THING TO ADD IS JUST, YOU KNOW, I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD SHOW SOME OF THOSE PHOTOS THAT THAT WE DID HAVE THAT SHOWED SOME OF THE FRONT VIEWS FROM GRAND RIVER. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE REALLY DO HAVE OUR CLIENT SHOULD SAY, REALLY DOES HAVE LIMITED VIEWING FROM WEST GRAND RIVER.
AND SO WE FEEL LIKE THE EAST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING, THAT'S THE BEST VISIBILITY.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS IF THE BOARD WOULD GRANT A VARIANCE TO PERMIT A SECOND WALL SIGN FOR THE EAST ELEVATION.
IT REALLY GETS A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S HEADED WEST, ON GRAND RIVER, SO.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME EXACT SIZE, LIKE KEITH MENTIONED, AS THE EXISTING ONE THAT WAS ALREADY PUT UP AT TWENTY NINE SQUARE FEET AND, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS IDENTICAL TO THE ONE IN THE FRONT, BUT JUST ON THE SIDE.
SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY. OK, GREAT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, MR. JOHNSON, AND YES, STAY CLOSE BY.
I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT OR THAT WANTS TO SPEAK GENERALLY ON THIS CASE TO SEE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN OUR IN OUR ATTENDEE'S AREA.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE LET US KNOW SO WE CAN GET YOU IN HERE TO SPEAK.
I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE MOMENTS.
IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO BOARD TIME.
OK, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD THEN AND MOVE ON TO BOARD TIME AND CLOSE PUBLIC REMARKS.
ALL RIGHT. ANYONE WANT TO BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION HERE? GO AHEAD, MEMBER HENDRICKSON.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT FOR PROVIDING ANSWERS TO THE NOT ANSWERS SO MUCH, BUT PROVIDING INFORMATION RELATING TO THE 8 CRITERIA THAT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL HELPS MAKE OUR JOB A LITTLE EASIER AS WE'RE SORT OF ADDRESSING THOSE.
OVERALL, WITHOUT GETTING SPECIFICALLY INTO ANY OF THEM, I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY OPEN AND SHUT CASE BEFORE US, WE APPROVED A SIMILAR VARIANCE REQUEST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T IN THIS CASE AS WELL.
THE SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST FOR THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING EXISTED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THERE ARE STILL THE SAME TREES OUT FRONT THAT MAKE THE SAME DIFFICULT TO SEE. IT'S NOT THE TENANTS FAULT WHO'S APPLYING FOR THE VARIANCE.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GET MOST OF THEIR DRIVING CLIENTELE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SEE A SIGN IN ORDER TO TO ACCESS AND KNOW ABOUT THE BUSINESS. AND SO I'M FEELING PRETTY, PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE REQUEST AS MADE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GO THROUGH AND WE WILL GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT THE 8 CRITERIA.
BUT FROM MY CURSORY REVIEW, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS UNLESS THERE'S SOME REALLY COMPELLING ARGUMENTS MADE TO CHANGE MY MIND.
AND JUST AS A NOTE, I MEAN, ALL OF US, I THINK, DO SITE VISITS AS A PART OF PREPARATION FOR THESE MEETINGS.
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AND SO WHILE WE AREN'T ABLE TO SEE PICTURES OF THE SPECIFIC BUILDING IN OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, WE DEFINITELY SAW THIS BACK IN JUNE WHEN WE SAW THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND SAW SITE PHOTOS.AND ALSO LIKELIER THAN NOT, MOST OF US HAVE DRIVEN BY HERE QUITE FREQUENTLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT FOR THE RECORD, SO THAT WERE SO THAT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS SITE UNSEEN.
AGREED. THANK YOU MEMBER HENDRICKSON.
I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.
I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO DRIVE THAT DIRECTION IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.
I'VE USED TO THINK IT WENT OVER THERE QUITE FREQUENTLY MYSELF RECENTLY.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, I DO DEFINITELY SEE WHERE, AGAIN, WE'RE BACK TO A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY. I CAN VERY EASILY MAKE THE CASE FOR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY IN THIS CASE, THE SAME WAY THAT WE MADE A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY AGAIN FOR THE OTHER TENANT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE ONE THING I WILL SAY AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND NOW WE HAVE I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD CASE THAT WE'VE HAD JUST ON GRAND RIVER ALONE IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, THAT IS SIGNAGE AND NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BECAUSE I THINK, AS MEMBER HENDRICKSON SAID, IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, BUT DOES THIS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT FURTHER AS FAR AS A GENERAL REGULATION, MEANING THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE BUILDINGS THAT DO HAVE TWO FRONTAGES, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE BUDDIES PIZZA CASE AND THINKING ABOUT ASPEN DENTAL.
NOW, THIS IS THE THIRD WE'VE HAD AS WE'RE BEGINNING TO REDEVELOP THESE AREAS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT? SO I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT THIS STOPS US FROM THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY.
I SEE A PATTERN, I GUESS DEVELOPING IS WHAT I WHAT I WANT TO MAKE A JUST MAKE A STATEMENT REGARDING SO THAT WE WE AS A BOARD CAN BE AWARE, AND PERHAPS IT'S SOMETHING, TOO, THAT WE NEED TO THEN REFER TO PLANNING OR TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.
ON THAT TOPIC. YOU KNOW, WE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WAS ONE OF MY THOUGHTS AS WE WERE LOOKING AT AS I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PACKAGE AS WELL.
AND WHILE WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON WHAT OUR GOAL IS FOR 2021 WILL BE AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THE OUR 2020 GOALS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC INTERRUPTED, EVERYTHING INCLUDED A REVIEW AND REVISION OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
AND SO I IMAGINE THAT THAT WILL BE BACK ON THE DOCKET FOR 2021.
AND NOW HAVING SEEN A FEW OF THESE CASES COME UP, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FODDER TO ADD TO THAT DISCUSSION.
SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK THAT'S LIKELY TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
EXCELLENT. AND I THINK THAT'S SUCH A GREAT REASON WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM PLANNING ON OUR BOARD. AND I THINK THAT MAKES FOR A REALLY HELPFUL RELATIONSHIP.
WHEN YOU CAN SEE THINGS THAT ARE STARTING TO BECOME A PATTERN, YOU CAN MAYBE EVEN ADDRESS THEM BEFORE WE NEED TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S A PATTERN HERE, BUT JUST SOMETHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ANYTHING FORMAL.
BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE YOU HAVE THE BOARD AND CAN CAN BRING THAT FORWARD.
JUST I MEAN, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AS AS YOUR OWN SEPARATE COMMISSION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S NECESSARY.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY PRECLUDED ME.
YOU KNOW, THAT SET CRITERIA SEVEN THAT I JUST HAD THAT LITTLE KIND OF LINGERING.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT TONIGHT? OK, IF NOT, I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF WING RIGHT THROUGH THESE CRITERIA JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THAT ON OUR RECORD, OBVIOUSLY DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS A BOARD, THE FIRST CRITERIA WOULD BE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST THAT ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND OR STRUCTURE THAT ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO ANY OTHER LAND OR STRUCTURES IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE TO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
KEITH DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.
OH, OK, I THOUGHT YOU WERE WAVING AT ME TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION AS I WAS READING.
CRITERIA NUMBER TWO, THESE ARE THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NOT SELF CREATED AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THERE THAT THIS WAS NOT SELF CREATED.
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CRITERIA NUMBER THREE, STRICT INTERPRETATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LITERAL TERMS AND PROVISIONS OF THIS CHAPTER WOULD RESULT IN PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES AND WE HAVE TALKED PRIOR, BUT I'LL GO INTO SOME OF THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES BEING A.SIGHTLINES WITH THE MATURE TREES IN THE FRONT THAT ARE THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IN OUR TOWNSHIP AND HAVE THAT GREEN SPACE AND THAT KIND OF BUFFER BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ROAD. THERE ALSO DO HAVE THE PROBLEM OF PRECLUDING SOME OF THE VISION OF THE OF THE SIGNAGE AND ALSO ON THAT EASTERN FRONT, KIND OF FACING THE DRIVE OFF OF GRAND RIVER.
THE SIGHT LINES ARE REALLY CHALLENGING.
AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ENTER THE BUILDING FROM THAT SIDE, ARE YOU IN THE RIGHT PLACE OR ARE YOU? THERE'S NO SIGNAGE THERE.
SO I THINK WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED AT LENGTH THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES OF NEEDING TO HAVE A VISUAL REPRESENTATION SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING COMING FROM EITHER DIRECTION ON THE ON THE ROAD THERE.
CRITERIA NUMBER 4 THAT THE ALLEGED PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES, WHICH WOULD RESULT FROM A FAILURE TO GRANT THE VARIANCE, WOULD UNREASONABLY PREVENT THE OWNER FROM USING THE PROPERTY FOR A PERMITTED PURPOSE.
AND I THINK BEING ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE EASILY ACCESS YOUR PLACE OF BUSINESS IS THE WOULD CONSTITUTE A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY.
LET'S SEE, VARIANCE NUMBER FIVE, GRANTING THE VARIANCE IS THE MINIMUM ACTION THAT WILL MAKE THE USE OF LAND OR STRUCTURE IN A MANNER WHICH IS NOT CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND WHICH WOULD CARRY OUT THE SPIRIT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SECURE PUBLIC SAFETY AND PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE.
I THINK THAT WE ARE AT MINIMUM ACTION.
WE'VE KEPT THAT SIGN TO THE SAME SIZE OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVED SIGN ON THE FRONT FAÇADE, AND THIS WOULD SECURE PUBLIC SAFETY AND PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE FOR THIS PARTICULAR B USINESS.
AND VARIANCE OR I'M SORRY, REVIEW CRITERIA NUMBER SIX, GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ADJACENT LAND OR THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY. I THINK THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH LARGE NEON SIGNS OR ANYTHING OF OF OVER AND ABOVE NATURE.
THIS IS RIGHT WITHIN LINE OF THE REST OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
CRITERIA NUMBER SEVEN, THE CONDITIONS PERTAINING TO THE LAND OR STRUCTURE ARE NOT SO GENERAL OR RECURRENT NATURE AS TO MAKE A FORMULATION OF A GENERAL REGULATION FOR SUCH CONDITIONS PRACTICABLE, AS WE JUST DISCUSSED.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PLANNING WILL BE LOOKING TO IN 2021.
AND AT THIS MOMENT, WE AS A BOARD DO NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO RECOMMEND ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.
CRITERIA NUMBER EIGHT, GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL BE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH PUBLIC INTEREST AND THE PURPOSES AND INTENT OF THIS CHAPTER, AND I DO THINK THAT THIS IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT THE.
WHAT IS INTENDED HERE, WHICH IS TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO BE VISIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO FREQUENT THOSE BUSINESSES.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THOSE CRITERIA? YES, MEMBER HENDRICKSON. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR FOR SUMMARIZING THE CRITERIA AND THE RATIONALE THAT I ALSO SHARE AND I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE VARIANCE IN ZBA 20-12-16-1.
ALL RIGHT. SUPPORTED BY A MEMBER FIELD-FOSTER.
ANY DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, WELL, IN THAT CASE, MEMBER KULHANEK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THIS EVENING? VOICE OF CHARLIE'S ANGELS, YEAH, HI THERE.
AND YOU HAVE TO STOP SAYING THAT BECAUSE I'M SURE I DON'T SOUND LIKE CHARLIE'S ANGELS.
I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN LISTENING AND AM IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH WITH THE SENTIMENT EXPRESSED ALONG THE WAY.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH MEMBER KULHANEK.
WELL, ON THAT NOTE, THEN, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
THIS IS A VOTE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE REQUEST.
NOW, I NEED TO FIND MY, HERE WE GO.
TO APPROVE THE CARIENCE REQUEST FOR ZBA CASE NUMBER 20-12-16-1 CHIPOTLE MEXICAN GRILL 610 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE SUITE 1300 NEWPORT BEACH, CALIFORNIA, 92660.
AND THE CHAIR VOTES, YES, YOUR VARIANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED.
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JOHNSON. YEAH, THANK YOU, GUYS.WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN TONIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, ON THAT NOTE, THERE IS NO OTHER BUSINESS FOR THIS EVENING, SO WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND SO THAT HOM TV CAN LET YOU IN OUR MEETING HERE.
AND IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO BE WATCHING ON HOM TV AT HOME, WE CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE TELEPHONE NUMBER (517) 349-1232 IF THAT'S PREFERABLE TO BEING INSIDE THE ATTENDEE AREA. I SEE NO ONE RAISING THEIR HAND THERE.
I'LL PAUSE FOR ABOUT 20 SECONDS TO ALLOW THE PHONE TO RING.
AND WE HAVE NO WE HAVE NO CALLS COMING IN AT THIS TIME, I THINK YOU'RE SAFE TO PROCEED.
WELL, OUR RENOS EAST CROWD IS NOT READY TO TALK WITH US TONIGHT, WHICH IS JUST FINE.
WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS.
IF ANYTHING ANY PLANNING BOARD MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
I WILL JUST ADD AS CHAIR, I WISH ALL OF YOU VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON AND A VERY, VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR. AND HERE'S HOPING 2021 IS A LOT MORE GENTLE AND KIND TO ALL OF US AND A LOT EASIER FOR ALL OF US THAN 2020 WAS.
JUST WANT TO THANK KEITH AND MARK FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE, PUTTING UP WITH US, KEEPING US IN LINE AND DEFINITELY GETTING US ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO YOUR WORK IS DEFINITELY APPRECIATED.
WE HAVE IT. WE HAVE EXCELLENT STAFF.
DIRECTOR KIESELBACH. AND KEITH OVER THERE KEEPING US KEEPING US INFORMED AND AND KEEPING THE TOWNSHIP MOVING AND BUILDING.
THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH YOU AS BRIAN BEAUCHINE WOULD SAY, THIS IS THE BEST BOARD TO BE STAFFED TO OR BE ON.
THERE WE GO. WE HAVE A GOOD TIME.
AND WE ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AS HE WOULD SAY.
I'M TELLING YOU. DON, I'M SORRY.
YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE CHARLIE FROM NOW.
I THINK. I THINK I THINK THE VOICE AND THE SPEAKER HAD A NAME, THOUGH I CAN'T REMEMBER.
IT WAS CHARLIE. IT WAS JUST CHARLIE.
BUT THAT DOES MAKE THAT MAKES KEITH BOSELEY THOUGH, SO.
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DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE THE ANGELS.ABOUT SO. THERE WAS A REMAKE EVEN.
BEFORE WE GO, I DID WANT TO JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK EVERYBODY, BUT ESPECIALLY OUR CHAIRPERSON, WHO I THINK DOES REMARKABLE WORK, KEEPING THE MEETINGS, MOVING ALONG.
I KNOW IT WAS A CHALLENGE, ESPECIALLY WITH ME BEING INVISIBLE BACK THEN.
BUT I'M SURE IT WAS IT WAS VERY CHALLENGING.
AND I THINK YOU DID REALLY REMARKABLE WORK AND KEPT A GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR ALONG THE WAY AND DID MORE MORE WORK THAN YOU PROBABLY EXPECTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE ELECTED CHAIRPERSON.
SO I APPRECIATE IT VERY, VERY MUCH.
EXCELLENT COMPLIMENT. THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN A LEARNING CURVE, BUT, HEY, WE'VE DONE IT TOGETHER AND WE'VE GOTTEN THERE AND WE'VE DONE GOOD WORK ALONG THE WAY.
SO I CAN I'M ONLY AS GOOD AS THE REST OF YOU ARE ON MAKING DECISIONS.
IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN IT'S BEEN FUN.
IT'S BEEN INTERESTING AND DEFINITELY A LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
SO HERE'S HOPING THAT SOMETIME IN 2021 WE GET BACK TO SEEING EACH OTHER.
I WOULD REALLY, REALLY LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE NICE. THAT WOULD BE NICE.
YEAH. WELL EVERYONE HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAY.
ON THAT NOTE, I WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.
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AND GOOD LUCK AND SEE YOU ON THE FLIP SIDE.THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.